Freedom of Movement

It’s moving to a position rather reminiscent of the IOM. Over there pensioners were also workers.

There's only so many an area can absorb.

I am all for degree level immigration, and I have no education, so that would have cut someone such as myself right out of the points based loop. Thankfully points based or a version of it is being implemented.

I am OK in that respect, I am self-reliant. But JohnAsh did use the word surfeit when describing the numbers of Europeans in his area, surfeit, over abundance, thankfully its coming to a halt and immigrants into the UK will enter on their merits.

Eye wateringly high across a large area of the country and throughout a large proportion of the manufacturing sector.

So do you see it as a final closing and bolting of the doors or do you anticipate routes in from Europe under a watered down licensing system (a bit like in the case of the fruit pickers this year - you may recall that fruit growers couldn’t pick their crops until the government gave the go ahead to fly in plane loads of workers from Eastern Europe )?

What I am reading on the final outcome in just a few months is along these lines:

https://www.hrlaw.co.uk/site/infoba...-end-of-transition-the-new-immigration-system


And like our very own spouses visa fees, there will also be visa fees to be paid for T2 Immigration by employers, on behalf of immigrant workers from Europe.

June 2016 the people voted out, FOM tipped the balance, I remember Jack straw saying labour's decision to allow so many Eastern Europeans into the UK was a "spectacular mistake" and Tony Bliar admitting Labour had underestimated the numbers who would arrive time will tell how it goes, predictions aren't very accurate as the Brexit vote itself proved

Remaining apolitical on this I foresee the end of freedom of movement at the end of the year and employers that relied on huge sources of unskilled EU labour struggling to maintain employment levels unless:

1) They employ UK citizens to make up the shortfall
2) Demand for their products contracts due to Coronovirus
3) Demand contracts owing to increased wages and product prices
4) The government relaxes on numbers via exceptions and exclusions


Is there something I have overlooked?

the government at the time--i dont know which--saw the opportunity to flood the labour market--and drive down /keep down wages. no doubt it will happen again.

Got it. There is another scenario and that is that companies invest in modern technology as a means of managing without importing labour from Europe.

It was one of several factors in terms of meeting employers needs in the new year.
So that’s five possibilities so far..

I was in Barnet yesterday, no exaggeration whatsoever to say the number of Eastern-European languages I walked past on the street was staggering, I actually found myself trying to listen for a british accent, lots of Romanian beggers in London, the face of the capital has changed since I first lived there in the 1980's,this is not the capital city I remember.

2021 could prove interesting as employers seek to hire unskilled workers to maintain or in many cases even increase output.

Hopefully this works!
He moved for free

https://www.youtube.com/redirect?v=...UQklwZkZkMFFjOW1TSU5NT294alZQck1MUFZicGJLcw==

I have been speaking face to face to half a dozen Nigerians who gained European status through Spanish cities in North Africa. Once they gained that status, travelled to the U.K. and then settled and are working in the North West.

Ceuta? I have been there on a number of occasions and met plenty of West Africans.

There are two of them. Ceuta is one. But I am not certain which one. I will ask.