Best proofs of reasons to return home. Visitor visa.

Hi all,

Is visitor visa only available for land and property owners or the ones who are employed for the long time?

I want my girlfriend to come here to visit me, but she doesn't own a land or house. We are 3 years in the relationship and I was visiting Philippines 7 times in this time. I have all the plane tickets and stamps in my passport. I meet her family and build a strong relationship. Now I want her to come here to visit me and meet my family, but it looks like it's starts to get complicated now.
In my last visit in June I was planning to stay in Philippines for good. But unfortunately my company has some kind of problems, so I had to come back to UK and sort everything out myself. And right now I changed the plans little bit. I plan to stay in UK for around one year to make my company works and looks perfect. And that's why I want my girl to join me. But like I said it looks complicated.
I can sponsor her without any problems. I am working full time and have second income from my company, but I rent a en suit room in HMO. HMO is good and cheap, but all the bills are included. Even council tax bill. So my only proof of address is my tenancy agreement.
And for my girl is not looking good either. She don't own the land and when I was visiting her in June she quit the job to spend the time with me. Right now she have another job, but she's there only from August.

So how can I prove that she's a genuine girl and she will come back home before visa run out? And what is the safe time she can apply for? I know visa is for 6 months, but can I apply for the 6 months straight away?
And I know that visitor visa is a multi entry visa. My family lives in different country as I am not British citizen. I am EU citizen. Because all the fuss with the Brexit I applied in home office for certificate of my pernament residency here because I am living in uk 12 years now. But they wanted me to send all my P60 and the problem is that they said it will take 6 months until they give me this certificate and return all my documents.
Is leaving UK and go to different EU country classified by home office as a leave and return? Maybe is it better to apply for example for 3 weeks visitor visa, go to my country to meet my family and after that come back and she can stay until 6 months run out without any problems?

Thanks for advices.
Tygrrysek.

Your finances or situation are of no interest to the immigration authorities. They will want to see evidence that the Filipino national will not overstay. That evidence, as you pointed out, is best provided by evidence of ongoing long term employment with a contract, evidence of ownership of land, property or business, or enrollment in a course of full-time education.

and how can she have a job back home if she wants to come over for 6 months ?

i dont normally get involved with EU cases resident in the UK--but i think you can bring your girlfriend over without let or hindrance. but you would need advice about this--from elsewhere.

No. That is not true. The income requirement does not apply for settlement visas of the wives of European nationals but all the other requirements do apply. In the case of a tourist visa there is no difference since the tourist visa application is considered on the merits of the applicant (at least when considering the likelihood of an overstay).

If the Op finds the immigration policies of the UK too restrictive, he is able to return to his country of origin and apply for a visa there - which is another option.

Just find another job. It's not really hard for her to do it as she quit the job in June after being employed over a year to spend some time with me and she find another one just one week after I left.

That's what exactly I am asking about. Is there any other good proofs? It's quite hard to believe that only land owners or business people are allowed to visit UK.
My girl is a young girl. Young girls don't own the land or start up the new business. She just finished university last year.
Do I really have to put her into college again just to have excuse for home office?
Is it visitor visa really only available for older people and to be successful I have to go the fiance visa route which take much more time and is more complicated?

As mentioned, she will need to demonstrate she has a good reason to return. If she is unable to show that, then any application for a tourist visit visa is unlikely to be successful.

How about advance booking ticket for Palawan or Bocaray or Having a holiday in Thailand for few days . And a ticket for you that you will come together with her when she return to Ph .just State in your cover letter that after her holiday in the UK you both have travel plans. So provide reservations documents,.

And how about upcoming occasions like weddings that your gf is part of the wedding so she need to provide invitation letter from a friend, or a surprise birthday to her mum or dad when she get back so provide venue reservations, and 50% down payment. Just only an idea. I used most of them when I applied TV .

What would you say if she will enrol to the university in the Manila? The first semester starts in June which could fit in the plan of staying 6 months in the UK and going back home to start education.

Thanks Emz|Ray.
Good ideas.
Is holidays have to be paid for? Or just unpaid bookings?

For Flight Yes , in case you've plan a holiday in Thailand just try cebu pacific they sometimes seat sale. I prefer travel outside country like Hongkong, Thailand or Malasia coz the flight cost was almost the same compared travel with in philippines

When I applied TV, my husband booked his ticket going to PH , so we travel both back here in Philippines. And I also include the reciept for our wedding Venue , I've paid 50% down payment including 5days stay in the hotel . My strong ties was our wedding after my holiday . Since my mum in law and sis/Bro in law can't attend our wedding so they provide invitation letter each of them stated that they want to see me .

The first time I applied for a tourist visa to UK, I only provided COE, 3 months recent payslip and a copy of my passport and invitation letter from my sisters husband and his P60 and got approved. And then last year I applied again and got approved also.

Concentrate on what the ECO wants to see,sometimes to much info is easier to pick holes in.

Seems like it really is a lottery , some applications are approved with less documents to show , than others with more .

Some good new suggestions from Emz , that I haven't thought of or heard before so thanks for sharing those .

The reasons given for our refusal in August , were the non ownership of house or land , and currently not having a job. .,even though they accepted my finances being sufficient to pay for my gf 's entire trip .

I do not believe that any claim of a holiday booking, a surprise party or a wedding invitation would be considered to be compelling evidence of intent to return. The sums invested are small. It would be seen for what it is - an unconvincing attempt to provide evidence of intent to return with no real penalty if she did not.

However, if you feel that it sounds convincing then go ahead and try it, but do not be surprised when the application is rejected.

Clearly your motivation for wanting a tourist visa is so that you can spend six months together. However unfortunately that is not the way it works. We have all been there and there are no back doors and no easy quick fixes.
If you can afford to visit her as you claim, then I suggest you do that.

A tourist visa is not intended to be used for you to cohabit with your girlfriend for six months. In addition. Whilst using a tourist visa, she would not be able to use health services or work whilst in the UK. She would therefore need medical insurance for the length of stay. It is also hard to see how she could retain employment for a long visit. She would therefore have no recent paystubs or contract of employment which is a huge problem.

Were I to be the immigration officer examining such an application, I would not approve it, because it does not look like a tourist visit. It looks like an unemployed girlfriend visiting her partner for a six month cohabitation with the strong possibility of overstay.

No it is not a lottery. Your application was rejected because the immigration rules require that the applicant shows compelling reason to return home as well as evidence of funds to support their stay. Your finances were accepted as evidence for the second part. She still needs to show evidence of the first.

As I have mentioned, that evidence could consist of a contract of ongoing employment (the COE mentioned by the other poster) or ownership of significant and non transferrable assets such as property or land. Evidence of ongoing higher education course would also be considered. However enrollment on a course to start when she returns is not compelling evidence. She has invested no time and little funds. She could cancel the course. The UKVI are no fools.

To the original poster. This is the law. You may not like it and you may try and convince yourself that there ought to be a way around it. But unfortunately your views are not taken into consideration by the UKVI. I suggest that you look to another means of you wish to spend six months with your girlfriend because I do not feel that any tourist visa application is likely to be successful.

However, if you disagree, then give it a try. It will cost you less than a hundred pounds. Just be prepared to be rejected because the odds are not in your favour given the facts of the case.

How about the fact of three years strong relationship? How about the fact that I already visited her many times and meet all her family? Now I want to take her to my home country and introduce her to my family. Show her my country. The places where I grow up. Spend the time together and plan the marriage which I wanted to be on the beach in Philippines. Visit my family members and pre invite them in person to our marriage in Philippines. How about the fact that I want to leave UK in the near future and live in the different country?
Isn't this more reliable reason to come back than some silly job which you can always quit and find another job in the next day?
Ruined relationship is not that easy to replace as the new job.

I very much applaud your sentiment and wish you every success.
However the UKBA are not swayed by love and emotion but deal within their guidelines.
I would be cautious of offering up to much social stuff as they may interpret it the way it's not intended.
It's very difficult for you both many on here have been through the same painful abscences.
If I were in your shoes I would clear my head look again at what UKBA want and try figure a way forward.
In a nutshell as you know they want
Strong reasons to return to the Philippines
Evidence she can support herself financially for the duration of the visit.
Good Luck

UKVI isn't interested in any of that even if you are and believe they should be. Their sole concerns are that the visitor has accommodation and means of support during their stay and that they will return to their home country before the Visa expires: Filipinos have a worldwide notoriety for overstaying their Visas; sad but true.