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What visa we need? Please Help!

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by Mariagail, Jun 6, 2019.

  1. Mariagail
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    In the fiance application, there is a question that goes do you have dependent? I have two children but two kids are applying for certificate of settlement. Should I include them on my application as dependent or just say no. Please help me. TIA
  2. bigmac
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    yes--you have to include them on your application.
  3. Mattecube
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    But you wouldn't have to put them on if they held British Passports.
    As advised the visas will take a similar amount of process time as the children's passports and this would save a lot of work.
    You appear to be rushing at this and not thinking through the best path to folloe
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  4. Mariagail
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    Thanks Bigmac, now I'm stuck again. Two children held Filipino passport, on the section where it says nationality. Should I put Filipino or British? Thanks
  5. Mariagail
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    Thank you bigmac, the reason being is that. Getting passport takes few months as experienced by most. But will surely do passport for the kids once we get there. Thank you for you concern. But for now, we will go with ROA.
  6. Markham
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    You should await the outcome of your applications for ROA before making your answer. You can not answer "British" unless and until you have successfully applied for their Passports so you will have to answer Filipino. Depending on the ROAs' outcome, you may be able to qualify that answer as "Filipino with Right of Abode in UK" otherwise UKVI will be looking for their visa applications.

    You are doubtless aware that a ROA application can take just as long to process as that for a Passport, even though it costs orders of magnitude more, and that in any event you can not apply for your childrens' first Passports from within the United Kingdom since they were not born there. However it appears you have greater insight into the best course of action than we doddery old fools who have all been through this and similar challenges before.
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  7. Mattecube
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    Are you saying that you are going to apply for visas for them and then when in the UK apply for ROA (which they will need British Passports for) or a are you going to apply for a certificate of entitlement. For your benefit although I am confident you have already researched your process path I attach a useful link
    https://www.gov.uk/right-of-abode
  8. Mattecube
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    Interesting question!
  9. bigmac
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    The question asks do you have dependants. She has 2.

    . Does it ask what nationality they are ?
  10. Mattecube
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    I think so yes!
  11. bigmac
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    well--in any case--the answer to the question--is yes. it doesnt matter if they are also applying or not. even if the already hold british passports--they are still her dependents.
  12. Mattecube
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    Depending on the visa applying for it will have monetary implications as if the child is British you don't have to earn more if non British then as we know you have to earn more and with 2 kids it's more still
  13. bigmac
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    true--but at this stage of her application the kids dont have brit passports--but i dont know if it will affect the sponsors earning requirement if she doesnt apply for her kids as philippines citizens.

    but she doesnt seem to want to listen to the advice of yourself, @Markham and others.
  14. Mattecube
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    But at present they are and holders of Filipino passports so non British in immigration status therefore sponsor has to earn more.
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  15. bigmac
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    thanks for clarifying. so even more reason for @Mariagail to get the kids their british passports before she applies for her settlement visa.

    maybe her husband would like to join us.
  16. Markham
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    It seems that this lady has a rather cavalier attitude towards family finances. A Certificate of Entitlement of Right of Abode for each child has an application fee of £372 and it would seem that there are additional costs to cover biometric collection, couriers etc. If she wants to go the whole hog, she could additionally apply for their certificates of citizenship which starts at £1,012 (each!) and then, of course, is the cost of their first Passports and the associated extra charges (including courier fees to and from the Philippines). And all because she can't wait the six or so weeks that Passport applications are currently taking - or so I am led to conclude - never mind the fact that she hasn't begun to submit her own visa application.

    An object lesson in time management would seem to be in order.

    If she continues on her current trajectory, she will (I believe) additionally need to pay for CFO clearance stamps and she should bear in mind that she will be under increased scrutiny at airport immigration should her children be travelling on Filipino Passports; CFO may require certificated approval from DSWD.
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  17. Markham
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    I suspect (but not sure) there could be an additional (hefty) IHS charge for each non-British child.

    But it's only money, after all.
  18. Mattecube
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    This is where it becomes very muddl
    this is where it becomes very muddled I think that they are going to apply on a fiancee visa but I am not sure you can bring your children along on one of them if you can what visa? And what costs? And other hoops like tb health surcharge etc.
    If they are hoping to do a marriage visit visa then yes you can I think but they will have to all return home and start applying.
    As we all know they cannot apply for passports whilst in the UK so here we have cost upon cost upon time
    Then there is ROA and the costs and time involved as @Markham states.
    So against all the above is long time scales and cost or they could go
    Kids British passport
    Partner fiancee visa:blackeye:
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  19. Markham
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    We can only provide advice but if those seeking it believe they know better, then no amount of friendly coaxing will shift those preconceptions from their mind. In this case we have all tried very hard to provide a plan which would save the questioner both time and money, her rejecting our advice is her choice and her responsibility.
  20. graham59
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    The greatest gift a child born in a third world country can be given ?

    ....The passport and thereby the citizenship of a first world country.

    Get on with it ! :rolleyes:
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