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What visa we need? Please Help!

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by Mariagail, Jun 6, 2019.

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  1. oss
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    You cannot obtain a passport for your children via the British Embassy in Manila that service is no longer available it stopped in 2009.

    You can get details on applying for RoA here https://www.gov.uk/right-of-abode

    You need to apply for a certificate of entitlement https://www.gov.uk/right-of-abode/apply-for-a-certificate-of-entitlement

    You have to apply online.

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    After your children have right of abode and once you have sorted all your other issues regards coming to the UK to live and once you are all here in the UK you can easily apply for full UK passports for your kids.
    oss, Jun 7, 2019
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  2. Mariagail
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    Thank you so much,Oss. It's a bit of relief for the kids.

    Ooh,also I am going to apply for fiance visa. Can I do the application together? Or the kids has to go first and then next would be the fiance visa?

    Lastly,Can I process and lodge papers for Right of abode at Philippine Embassy in Manila after I applied the online?
    Mariagail, Jun 7, 2019
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  3. graham59
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    Right of abode costs £388 per child ... and still no passport ?

    Passport costs £110 per child (when I applied in 2016) . Basically the same documents needed, and the children will have British Passports.

    No-brainer.

    Forget ROA, and apply for passports.
    graham59, Jun 7, 2019
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    O.P. I think you should ask your partner to join this site too, and let him ask the questions... with all due respect.
    graham59, Jun 7, 2019
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  5. Mariagail
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    He doesn't need to come in this site,Graham. I know for you its easy to say,you are Brainy enough to this things. But for us who is new,we might ask question again and again. Thats why we come here for an advice and more info. But thank you for your consideration.
    Mariagail, Jun 7, 2019
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  6. Mariagail
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    ok thanks.
    Mariagail, Jun 7, 2019
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  7. graham59
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    I'm not saying I'm brainy .
    I'm just trying to give good advice about the system we use, and ways that we do things in the UK.... which is very different than in the Philippines (where I now live).
    graham59, Jun 7, 2019
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  8. Mariagail
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    Thank you and will start getting all documents for the processing of the kids passport. Hope to get more advices from you.
    Mariagail, Jun 7, 2019
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  9. bigmac
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    I strongly suggest your partner does come to this site. He will have a lot to do here in the UK as part of your visa application. It's not good leaving you to do everything.
    bigmac, Jun 7, 2019
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Sadly the norm!
    Mattecube, Jun 7, 2019
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  11. deanobeano
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    I did certificate of entitlement right to abode for my stepson and took 2 days to get,We paided for priority but that was when everything was sent to Philippines and they sent it off,That was 2 and half years ago, like they say it's was £472 and goes in Philippine passport and expires when passport do's,So now son in uk we will do his british passport.
    deanobeano, Jun 7, 2019
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  12. graham59
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    That's fine if you have the cash to give to H.M. Govt.

    There are two children I believe in this case.... so a lot of cash. If not in a great hurry. wasted money.

    If in a hurry... ok. Same docs needed though.
    graham59, Jun 7, 2019
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  13. deanobeano
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    Yes true I just did it quick as wife got her visa.
    deanobeano, Jun 7, 2019
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  14. oss
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    This is slightly off topic but relevant to the broader issue.

    For myself I have the complication that I don't want to send my daughter's passport off for renewal by courier as it is the main proof she has that she is a British Citizen, if I were to die that's really all she has that plus a birth registration document.

    Once a child has a passport that alone is proof of Citizenship and Right of Abode, even if the document is expired, in theory at least, in practice I worry about how it would work because my daughter's expired passport is the passport of an infant and from everything I have read they are likely to want almost all the same proof of paternity on renewal that I supplied originally and that would be expensive. Obviously the picture of an infant is not going to be even close to that of a teenager and that is where the doubt comes in.

    But you can't get a Right of Abode stamp or sticker if a passport has already been issued even if that passport is expired.

    I think the reasoning is that you should be able to travel on the Philippine passport with the expired British document as proof of citizenship, even expired it is proof of citizenship, but it would be a scary thing to try for an older child given that we would have the cost of at least three flights at risk of cancellation (me, my daughter and her mother).

    I'm still worrying about this and have been for years.
    oss, Jun 7, 2019
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  15. Mariagail
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    I and my partner thought of getting passport as it could help more for the kids in the future. But considering that we wanted to fly to UK this year. We can't wait for a year for the passport. As I read your reply, it seems that the quickest we could get is ROA at the moment.
    Mariagail, Jun 7, 2019
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  16. Mariagail
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    Yes Graham, in our case it's a lot to spend. As much as we tried to avoid too much expenses. We also want to get the one we could use sooner.
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    Mariagail, Jun 7, 2019
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    Did your wife do it in Philippines?
    Mariagail, Jun 7, 2019
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  18. Mariagail
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    Ooh, that's quick. I have ask around thru agency. These days they charge £538( considering exchange rate) each child for ROA.
    Mariagail, Jun 7, 2019
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    There is no guarantee that RoA will be quicker than applying for a Passport, they both require similar amounts of proof of citizenship.

    Also you are not yet married, your case is different from deanobeano's case, the requirements for proof of paternity are greater when you are not yet married and given that you have not reported the births in a timely fashion that will also count against you.

    The UK expects reports of birth within, if I remember correctly, about 18 months, your children are already much older than that and the burden of proof is likely to be much heavier.
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    oss, Jun 7, 2019
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    Oss:

    Simply photograph the current passport. Store the images in multiple places. I do that with all my important docs (driving licence, etc.) Have done for years.

    Everything is stored on computer now at the Passport Office anyway... including the reference number of the passport of course, and the original application form/s
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    graham59, Jun 8, 2019
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