UK to end freedom of movement for EU citizens on day one of Brexit, under new government plan

And that's the problem Mike, a substantial part of Northern Ireland see's itself as British, you are probably right that the problem should have been faced up to long ago but right now the reality is that those people who would forcibly have their citizenship changed would feel like they had been totally disenfranchised and that would create new unrest.

And you can equally say the Scots should go just to get rid of that problem too, but that essentially means that the whole Brexit story boils down to English nationalism and rediscovery of English identity.

And that's where it rests, you know my views given the current political voice in England I think the Scots should leave no matter how damaging that might be to Scotland, SCEXIT one might say and for all the same reasons that England wants BREXIT.

But Britain as an entity would probably prefer EGEXIT.

Yes we stole some of there genes and rode them to oblivion (slightly yucky statement ).

Just for Boots, just wait till the Aliens arrive and do to us what we did to the Neanderthals

John we are in our own hands, no one else's but if we have zero empathy for the position of our partners then they will have zero empathy for us or our position.

Yes Malcolm English nationalism might actually let the Scots get their freedom

I'm almost tempted to support that idea because it is becoming a prevailing grudge in the England.

I am not a natural Nationalist I am not predisposed that way although I am proud of Scotland's contribution to the world.

My sister is not a natural Nationalist either but both of us now believe we would in the long term have a better future for our families as a separate nation.

We didn't become who we are today overnight but like many Scots we started to change at the beginning of the Thatcher years in part because all we saw was greed and that the outcome of the Thatcher dream would be greed an insularity.

It's very sad.

The entire point is that we never had any hands of our own, we might think we are a mighty nation and in many ways we are but we have achieved that today through co-operation, we are 65 million they are 400 or more million, we were always in that sense a junior partner, and now trying to play poker with EU was and is just silly, we need to talk like adults.

Yes and prescriptions are free in Wales and they are free to you, and me, whoopee I got a benefit this year

Scotland has always had its own legal system for the last however many hundred years, now we have a government and fee's for students are the choice of the Scottish people and not really the concern of the English.

The problem is that the English are trying to rediscover themselves and that is English nationalism, it really is the final throws of end of Empire it might take a while but really England will finally be diminished to being just England.

As for the money the SNP would have a very different argument about the wealth but that one is too late because you got the vast majority of it already and even if there is 30 years of it left we could not rely on that alone and burning the damn stuff is a dumb idea anyway

I went to school with lots of them in the 1960s and they were and are a big part of our economy with all the fish an chip shops and restaurants way before the Indians and Chinese came into that business space

I had a crush on a lassie named Rosanna, I went to primary school with her she was 1st generation Scottish from Italian parents, they came here after the war and had some children late in life, the Italians were a great addition to Scotland.