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UAP (UFO) Claims

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by anon250913, May 18, 2025.

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    Garry Nolan: Aliens | The Case They’re Already Here

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    It's very simple, they don't exist mate.

    Interstellar travel is nigh on impossible, the energy requirements and the time required make it impossible.

    The only possible warp drive ever imagined requires negative energy, something that does not exist.

    Please understand, I would love it all to be real and true but it isn't.
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    Jim,
    This is an interesting video and does not agree with your comment above:

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    From my POV, there seems to be a growing amount of evidence that we are not alone.
    Technology changes of course, people were amazed when they saw the "Wright Flyer" take off in 1903.
    Who knows how technology will alter perceptions in the future, long after we're no longer around to see the changes.
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    UFO disclosure could reshape global economics, geopolitics, science | Full Interview
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    Looks like physics, as we know it, will need to be reappraised as UAP's can teleport. Star Trek was not so ludicrous and far-fetched (see link in post #7) :cool:
    Descending from Space to the surface of the ocean in 0.7 seconds :cool::geek:
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    From the same link in post #7 above (Time stamp 15:00):
    "I'm a scientist. I'm not looking" :eek:

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    Looks like the love you have for science will grow...

    “Warp one, engage!”

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    Mike I've already seen these claims, I know about Alcubierre and I know about even more recent claims regards warp drives, that article is 13 years old.

    Note that the rounded donut needs to be made of "exotic matter" what's that when it's at home, others have calculated that you could never turn off an Alcubierre drive once started amongst other problems.

    Knuth in your other video is a credible scientist but his explanation for missiles being interfered with through alien warp bubbles flying above in the 1960s and 1980s makes little or no sense, those missiles used inertial navigation at that time, a mechanical system not a modern fancy computer and GPS system. A warp drive works by compressing the space in front of the ship contract and the space behind it expand the ship in the flat spacetime bubble doesn't move, so how does it affect missile navigation by hovering over it?

    There is no theory allowing anti gravity, we can dream but nothing in nature suggests any prospect of anti gravity so where does the hovering come from.

    The power requirements for the theories that exist are many orders of magnitude beyond anything any technology could supply, Star Trek relied on antimatter (which exists anti particles exist) so somehow they were going to harness and collect and redirect total anhialation of matter and antimatter full e=mc^2 into the creation of a warp bubble, that's the absolute maximum energy we can ever achieve but where's the antimatter, answer there isn't any in the current universe, just small amounts of anti particles.

    It's all a pipe dream.
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    Jim,
    Did you watch the video in post #7?
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    Mike, really?

    Anecdotal bullshit on a news program coming from whom.

    All this alien conspiracy crap just adds to the whole information war play and general conspiracy theory propagation to diminish everyone's trust in actual science.

    Life elsewhere in the Universe, very probably, the molecules of life the basis like amino acids are found in space we know that, intelligent life maybe somewhere, will we ever meet intelligent alien technological life, very unlikely.

    You need to get a grip on the scale of the Universe and the energy involved in actually trying to visit another solar system.

    If Kardashev scale aliens existed like type 1 or type 2 they would be here already at sub light speeds without warp bubbles and without anti gravity just plain old relativity time dilation and if they were here it would be obvious that they were here but at the same time any Kardashev type 1 or 2 civilisation would already know how to live in space and would not be particularly interested in planets like ours.

    The idea that science is about to be overturned is bunk, I've gone on about this many times before, science does not progress by things being overturned, Newton's theory of gravity and his equations work perfectly well at low velocities, they don't work near the speed of light, Einstein's equations work near and at the speed of light but resolve to exactly Newtonian mechanics at low relative velocities.

    Einstein didn't overturn Newton he built on Newton.
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    Part of it not confidence inspiring.

    I might watch some more later.

    I watched over 90% of the Steven Knuth one but that podcast he was on is someone who hosts known conspiracy nuts.
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    Jim, you could be wrong about UAP's and UFO's, my friend.
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    Yes I could be wrong, but I'm freaking certain that I'm not.

    You know that Stephen Hawking hosted a party for time travellers in 2009, the invitations were sent out the day after the party and yes no one turned up.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking's_time_traveller_party

    That's real science, he conducted an experiment which attempted to violate causality at a macroscopic scale and guess what causality won.

    All Faster Than Light (FTL) drives violate causality or directly result in time travel to the past, Warp Drives that exceed light speed the same thing, non FTL Warp Drives i.e. sub light speed would respect causality but would be subject to relativistic time dilation so for example a 100 light year journey might only take a week but everyone at their home is going to be a couple of hundred years older when they get back.
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