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Need advice British Passport or Right of abode

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by Mariagail, Jun 6, 2019.

  1. Mariagail
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    Hi I have two kids. Both are children of a British citizen living and born in Philippines. We wanted to move to the UK. Which one should we get for the kids?

    Anyone who has knowledge of this. Kindly help us.
  2. oss
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    Were they born after June 2006, if they were then they are automatically British Citizens and you can apply for a passport but the requirements are a bit onerous some guidance here https://www.gov.uk/get-a-child-passport

    You can apply for Right of Abode some instructions here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/right-of-abode-nationality-policy-guidance but I expect it will need a fair bit of proof as well.

    Some people have reported very long waiting times for first child passports when applying from the Philippines.
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  3. Mariagail
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    Hi Oss,
    Thank you so much for the reply.

    Yes they are born, 2010 and 2015. Are you suggesting we go for right of abode? Where do you think I should process it? In Manila where home office in .

    Thanks
  4. oss
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    I got my daughter a passport 11 years ago so I've not done the Right of Abode thing but I think that it gets inserted into the child's Philippine passport so I guess it would have to be done in Manila but I don't really know, that link should give some details.

    From other threads on the forum and from memory I think it is an either/or situation if you go or a passport and it is granted then there is no point in getting an RoA and conversely if you have an RoA then you don't need a UK passport however upon arrival in the UK one of the first things I would do if I were you is to apply for a British passport for them.
  5. Br28016
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  6. Mariagail
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    Thanks for the response.

    My partner is born British and not settled as he said. And both the kids are half-British, half-filipino. Which makes me confuse, I couldnt make them as my dependent upon application. But you thread is helpful to check for my visa supporting documents.
  7. Mariagail
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    Hi Oss,
    We will go for applying them for British passport. Where do you think we should send the papers in the Home office Philippines or in the UK. My partner is in the UK at the moment., is it OK if he will be the one to process the passport while the kids are in Philippines.

    Thank you so much.
  8. oss
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    To do the passport route you have to send everything to the UK you can't do it at the embassy in Manila they stopped that method at the end of 2008.

    I also think that all documents have to be couriered from the Philippines, I was not able to apply for my daughter's passport renewal from the UK the child has to be physically present in the UK to make an application from the UK.

    Be careful when sending any original documents that cannot be replaced, that is my biggest worry regards my own daughters passport renewal, I really don't trust the passport service and the couriers not to lose them.

    Please be aware that some people have had to wait nearly a year to get passports for their kids.
  9. Mariagail
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    Ooh its a bit tricky, our kids still here in the Philippines. Can't get them British passport if they are here. Any additional info in ROA maybe it could be another option for now?
  10. oss
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    You can definitely do the passport application from the Philippines it's just that all the documents have to be sent off by courier to the UK.

    Checkout the link to the thread that Br28016 posted I think it has a lot of good info on the RoA route.
  11. Mariagail
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    Ooh, also, do I need to register their birth first in the UK before applying for passport? Please help me with what will be the best option, the easier way to get to UK.
  12. oss
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    I did the birth registration at the Embassy in Manila in 2008 for my daughter, but I am told that this is not something that is required now although it is a nice extra to have but it is not essential.

    I don't think either option is easy or that one way is easier than the other, it really just depends on you having all the right supporting documents.

    Try starting here https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passports this is for overseas passport applications and if you enter the date of birth that it asks for it will end up realising that you are applying for a child passport from overseas, this looks like a new service and it contains links regards British Nationality and being able to prove it.
  13. graham59
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    NO.

    You do not need to register their births in the UK.

    As I have stated in your other thread... just go straight for the British passports for your kids. Cheaper and more valuable. Same documents needed.

    I recommend that you and your partner read thoroughly the OFFICIAL (not some site pretending to be) UK Passport Office website here: https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/hm-passport-office and search for 'Children Born Overseas' . All the requirements are listed there. (You can use their Philippines birth certificates).

    There will be no charges, other than the standard application fee for each child.... which includes delivery by courier to your address in the Philippines.

    I have procured a British Passport for my Philippines-born son within the last 2 years. using the Passport Office online application in this way.
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  14. graham59
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    The least I can do for my child , IMO.


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  15. Mattecube
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    Graham you did this very recently didn't you? I would suggest OP that you heed @graham59 advice
  16. Mariagail
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    Thank you very much,Graham. I will start getting started with documents needed.
  17. Mariagail
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    How long does it take you to get passport for your son? Just so we have idea.
  18. graham59
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    It took a few months, but for some it has taken almost a year, so be prepared for a long, but 'worth it' wait. There is no way around this. This is because each document is sent back and forth between countries for checking. I (father) was also interviewed, when in the UK.

    I don't know what current waiting times are. Perhaps the passport website will help there.

    Make certain that you use the application form for a first passport for a child born overseas/abroad... NOT born in the UK !

    Again, make sure you use the correct OFFICIAL UK government Passport Office website, as there are lots of parasite 'advisers' ready to take your money, for NOTHING.

    You will then be given a case reference number for online application, which you can log in to.
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  19. Mariagail
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    I know,I've been consulting around and ask agency about our visa processing and they charge us almost 100k pesos for the processing fee (not included visa and other fees) as they said they can do it. But thanks to you and everyone here for helping us. I don't need them now.
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  20. graham59
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    ... And what do they know about the BRITISH system anyway ?

    At least use a British agency IF you really have to... though it sounds like you won't.

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