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Minimum Income Requirement for bring one child (only) to the UK

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by gibson, Nov 12, 2017.

  1. Br28016
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    Br28016 Active Member Trusted Member

    When we were waiting for visa I tried to establish the thirty day window start and I'm sure others had the window starting from date of notification or very close. In our case it so started latter but step children visa did not turn up for a few days and only then after chasing. Never established the rationale for it but you should expect the clock to be ticking from round about now.

    Can get a new start date but never worked out process and there is definitely an additional cost.

    Hope you have sucessful result as process is very stressful.
  2. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    This is a nail biting conclusion
  3. gibson
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    gibson New Member

    It was a Yes. Application approved.
    Thank You to everyone that gave me advice.

    There is another hurdle. We have to get the daughter a CFO sticker and book her onto the 4 hour seminar counselling session.
    Can anyone confirm if it is the first option in this link that we need?? (PDOS)
    https://www.cfo.gov.ph/

    The solicitor thinks the sessions are held in Manilla or Davao.
    But this link says the sessions are in Manilla or Cebu.
    https://rapidvisa.com/country-info/philippines/cfo-seminar-philippines/
    Is it Cebu? Or Davao.
    It says Manilla needs an appointment. (Not walk in)
    Does that mean Cebu is walk in?

    Any comments please if you know anything about this. Thank you.
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  4. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    well done. was the sponsorship earning amount of £18,600 used after all ? and when does the visa expire ?

    as far as i'm aware--she will need an appointment at both manila or cebu for her cfo.
  5. gibson
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    gibson New Member

    Thank you. We worked on £18,600 and the mother met that. So I think it was right. The 30 day visa is to 18 august.

    Daughter is 17. She will be 18 in early august. It seems that PDOS is for a person aged 20 to 59. A young person from 13 to 19 years has the Peer Counselling Programme. I am confused if the Peer Conselling Seminar is Manilla only or if it available at Cebu and Davao. (Clark is a fourth option). I clicked on the link and it is not clear to me. Maybe Mum will have to dive in and register and see what happens.

    So little time to organise this. If anyone knows please shout.
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  7. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    what i mean is--the visa--is it for 30 months--or Indefinite Leave to Remain--like her mother ?
  8. gibson
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    gibson New Member

    I have not seen a copy of the letter yet. I understand it says Indefinite Leave.
  9. gibson
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    gibson New Member

    It is sorted. The online application for the Peer Councilling session was a bit problematic because we became stuck on a couple of trivial items. I could not work out why the "home address" telephone number was not being accepted. I eventually twigged that a dash was required after the area code.
    I am going to stick around here because something like that is unbelievably annoying, and at some point, somebody else is going to get stuck with the exact same thing......
    Once again, thank you for being so patient with me.
    This is a great resource and we are lucky to have it.
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  10. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    what was the visa fee ? was there an IHS surcharge ?
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  12. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    wow--so anyone thinking of bringing their wife's kid ( s) over can save themselves a fortune by waiting till she gets her ILR ! thanks for that!
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  13. John Surrey
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    John Surrey Well-Known Member

    I'm confused now...
    So you take your wife over - pay the visa fees but not the Health Surcharge - then apply for ILR and it's all ok ?
  14. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    no. as i understand this thread--the mother was already in the uk for some years--and had aquired ILR. she applied for her child to get a settlement visa--and the child was given ILR straight away--no initial first visa fee--no FLR's--just ILR fee of approx £2900 and no IHS surcharge. if thats the case--its got me thinking. my wifes ILR is in 2 years time--her son back home will be 15--so still plenty of time for him to apply. ( he was refused 18 months ago )
  15. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Thats how I read the post, I think a key year is 2012 and if the applicant was here before then however as I said on a previous thread my interest like yours had been poked by this path however time was against us as my wifes ILR wouldnt come before her daughters 18 birthday so we have had to go the long way in terms of Leave to Remain then Further Leave Remain
    However my understanding is this
    You cannot apply for a child to have ILR on the the back of the mothers application for ILR unless the child is already in the UK on a visa!
    So
    In our case for example my wifes ILR is due early 2021 and her daughters late 2021 but I believe under the rules when we apply for my wifes ILR we can pull forward her daughters ILR application to coincide with her mothers.
  16. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    yes--i do think youre right. the mother gained ILR in 2013 after being here for years on a work visa.

    in our case--i'm just going to wait and see what happens over the next couple of years.. her son will still only be 15 then. who knows what will happen in those 2 years.
  17. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

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    I think there is a benefit in there for you!
    1. as your wife was here pre 2012 on a visa then her son will be able to apply at the same time for ILR
    or
    2. You will put son on Leave to remain prior to your wifes ILR application and then when she applies he can apply also.

    I hope I am around at the time to celebrate with you!
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    she was here on a student visa--2008 to 12. but she didnt try to convert it to settlement ( her sister did ! )

    she got her settlement ( marriage ) visa in 2016.
  19. Br28016
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    This is the section of the immigration rules that i remember reading that applies to indefinite leave to enter.

    Suspect @bigmac will still have problems under para 297 unless can cover under section (e).

    Leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom as the child of a parent, parents or a relative present and settled or being admitted for settlement in the United Kingdom

    Requirements for indefinite leave to enter the United Kingdom as the child of a parent, parents or a relative present and settled or being admitted for settlement in the United Kingdom

    297. The requirements to be met by a person seeking indefinite leave to enter the United Kingdom as the child of a parent, parents or a relative present and settled or being admitted for settlement in the United Kingdom are that he:
    (i) is seeking leave to enter to accompany or join a parent, parents or a relative in one of the following circumstances:
    (a) both parents are present and settled in the United Kingdom; or
    (b) both parents are being admitted on the same occasion for settlement; or
    (c) one parent is present and settled in the United Kingdom and the other is being admitted on the same occasion for settlement; or
    (d) one parent is present and settled in the United Kingdom or being admitted on the same occasion for settlement and the other parent is dead; or
    (e) one parent is present and settled in the United Kingdom or being admitted on the same occasion for settlement and has had sole responsibility for the child’s upbringing; or
    (f) one parent or a relative is present and settled in the United Kingdom or being admitted on the same occasion for settlement and there are serious and compelling family or other considerations which make exclusion of the child undesirable and suitable arrangements have been made for the child’s care; and
    (ii) is under the age of 18; and
    (iii) is not leading an independent life, is unmarried and is not a civil partner, and has not formed an independent family unit; and
    (iv) can, and will, be accommodated adequately by the parent, parents or relative the child is seeking to join without recourse to public funds in accommodation which the parent, parents or relative the child is seeking to join, own or occupy exclusively; and
    (v) can, and will, be maintained adequately by the parent, parents, or relative the child is seeking to join, without recourse to public funds; and
    (vi) holds a valid United Kingdom entry clearance for entry in this capacity; and
    (vii) does not fall for refusal under the general grounds for refusal.
    Requirements for indefinite leave to remain in the United Kingdom as the child of a parent, parents or a relative present and settled or being admitted for settlement in the United Kingdom
    1. 298. The requirements to be met by a person seeking indefinite leave to remain in the United Kingdom as the child of a parent, parents or a relative present and settled in the United Kingdom are that he:
      • (i) is seeking to remain with a parent, parents or a relative in one of the following circumstances:
      • (a) both parents are present and settled in the United Kingdom; or
      • (b) one parent is present and settled in the United Kingdom and the other parent is dead; or
      • (c) one parent is present and settled in the United Kingdom and has had sole responsibility for the child’s upbringing or the child normally lives with this parent and not their other parent; or
      • (d) one parent or a relative is present and settled in the United Kingdom and there are serious and compelling family or other considerations which make exclusion of the child undesirable and suitable arrangements have been made for the child’s care; and
      • (ii) has or has had limited leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom, and
      • (a) is under the age of 18; or
      • (b) was given leave to enter or remain with a view to settlement under paragraph 302 or Appendix FM; or
      • (c) was admitted into the UK in accordance with paragraph 319R and has completed a period of 2 years limited leave as the child of a refugee or beneficiary of humanitarian protection who is now present and settled in the UK or as the child of a former refugee or beneficiary of humanitarian protection who is now a British Citizen, or
      • (d) the applicant has limited leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom in accordance with paragraph 319X, as the child of a relative with limited leave to remain as a refugee or beneficiary of humanitarian protection in the United Kingdom and who is now present and settled here; or
      • (e) was last given limited leave to remain under paragraph 298A; and
      • (iii) is not leading an independent life, is unmarried, and has not formed an independent family unit; and
      • (iv) can, and will, be accommodated adequately by the parent, parents or relative the child was admitted to join, without recourse to public funds in accommodation which the parent, parents or relative the child was admitted to join, own or occupy exclusively; and
      • (v) can, and will, be maintained adequately by the parent, parents or relative the child was admitted to join, without recourse to public funds; and
      • (vi) does not fall for refusal under the general grounds for refusal, and
      • (vii) if aged 18 or over, was admitted to the United Kingdom under paragraph 302, or Appendix FM, or 319R or 319X and has demonstrated sufficient knowledge of the English language and sufficient knowledge about life in the United Kingdom in accordance with Appendix KoLL.
    298A. If an applicant does not meet the requirements of paragraph 298 only because:(a) the applicant does not meet the requirement in paragraph 298(vi) by reason of a sentence or disposal of a type mentioned in paragraph 322(1C)(iii) or (iv); or
    (b) an applicant aged 18 or over does not meet the requirement in paragraph 298(vii); or
    (c) the applicant would otherwise be refused indefinite leave to remain under paragraph 322(1C)(iii) or (iv), the applicant may be granted limited leave to remain for a period not exceeding 30 months and subject to a condition of no recourse to public funds.
    Indefinite leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom as the child of a parent, parents or a relative present and settled or being admitted for settlement in the United Kingdom
    299. Indefinite leave to enter the United Kingdom as the child of a parent, parents or a relative present and settled or being admitted for settlement in the United Kingdom may be granted provided that, on arrival, a valid passport or other identity document is produced to the Immigration Officer and the applicant has entry clearance for entry in this capacity. Indefinite leave to remain in the United Kingdom as the child of a parent, parents or a relative present and settled in the United Kingdom may be granted provided the Secretary of State is satisfied that each of the requirements of paragraph 298 is met.
  20. bigmac
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    with us--its the proving of my wife having sole responsibilty for her son. not straightforward.

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