Lee Rigby's killers found guilty of murder but not guilty of attempted murder of PC

I see from the BBC web site that Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale have been found guilty of murdering Fusilier Lee Rigby but not guilty of the attempted murder of a Police Officer at the scene in Woolwich. The Judge will pass sentence on the pair in January and one can only hope that he is permitted to set a very high tariff - at least as high as that given to the Lostprophets singer, paedophile Ian Watkins - particularly since neither defendant showed any remorse for his actions during the trial.

I foresee reprisals against the Muslim community by the far right thugs that are EDL which may lead to more widespread rioting if the sentences are perceived to be too lenient. Tense times ahead, I feel.

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So long as the two of them spend every minute of every day in fear of what may be done to them by their fellow prisoners, and as much of that time as possible in actual physical pain, the British public will be more or less satisfied.

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I wish for that too but you know what, we're no longer in the Victorian era and politically-correct social scientists now run the place, so the duo will spend their time in solitary splendour, eating specially-prepared Halal food, with a flatscreen cable TV in their cell, probably a phone and broadband connection and, very likely, a star and crescent moon symbol painted on the wall that faces east. If it were up to me, they'd be accorded no privileges, placed on a general wing and force-fed bacon sandwiches.

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I would agree, these should have no special circumstances in prison. This is just a straight forward murder case by two cold blooded killers. It's nothing else.

Forget the "bacon sandwiches" comment though. These aren't real muslims. They weren't killing for a cause. They are converted muslims, who decided to latch onto a religion to try and justify their blood lust.

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Whilst not having any imaginary friends of my own and being as shocked as the rest of us at the death of a young man on our city streets conversion is central to the christian belief system as well having watched Panorama last night a clearer picture of extreme radicalisation emerges including probable approaches from the security services

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03qg490/Panorama_Woolwich_The_Untold_Story/

Either these two are insane or commitment (no matter how misguided)to their belief system allows them to justify what they did as a reaction to as they see it countless civilian casualties inflicted by the military of western countries on there fellow muslims.

They clearly wanted to die and hung around after the murder expecting to be killed is this mad? or logical in the Paradime they were living in?

Our revulsion to a senseless and brutal death should be just as great no matter where it occurs if we want to occupy the moral high ground

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We invade muslim countries and justify collateral damage there and then we get equally terrible consequences.
I think when we are fully out of Iraq and Afghanistan, the situation will ease and these extremists will fade away.

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I agree Guys but that would mean our Governments would have to own up to there belief that they should do anything they think is required to keep our fuel tanks filled no matter how much "collateral damage"

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I think the fact that they are converts is highly relevant. As is I think quite well known, most Moslem congregations do not proselytise much, if at all - I am about as likely to be asked by a Moslem friend, such as my doctor, to attend his mosque as I am to invite him to attend my parish church. Maybe for a wedding, in either case, but not otherwise.

Most mosques in Britain have been built by subscriptions raised amongst immigrant communities and they often use a language other than English and Arabic, so a convert does not readily feel at home.

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You're right, Keith.
We could be waiting a little while for that

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The circle of violence continues making it as clear as mud to see what started it.....

And now.....
"Grimsby mosque attackers jailed for six years"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25469555

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"Humphries and Harness, both former soldiers of Dixon Avenue, Grimsby, unwittingly recorded themselves making the bombs on cameras set up in Harness's home.

The pair were caught again on CCTV as they carried out the attack on the mosque."

Darwin award here, please.

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That's the excuse given by Islamists to justify their actions but I suggest it's not entirely valid. Of the countries whose forces take part in the NATO Alliance it is only Britain and the Philippines who have any serious problems with Islamists on their home territories. Of those two, it is only Britain wherein Islamists rail against the country's involvement in either Afghanistan or Iraq.

Britain has become far too tolerant and PC with regards to minority communities living within her shores. Go to Saudi Arabia, UAE or Iran and start proselytizing about Christianity and see how you fare, if you're not stoned to death, you'll languish in jail for a very long time. But extreme Muslim "hate preachers" such as Omar Bakri Muhammad are permitted to appear on British television praising Lee Rigby's killers and adding "I've got a son, if he did what Michael did I would be happy.". Since Lee's murder, that hate preacher fled to Libya fearing he'd be arrested for his pronouncements in support of the two murderers and for promoting jihad. Unlike most other countries of the world, Britain does not require immigrants to integrate fully into British life and society but instead passes laws which have the effect of discriminating against the native population. We have made a rod for our own backs and Islamists are beating us with it.

If it wasn't Afghanistan or Iraq, many of these disaffected youths would find some other cause to latch onto. The problem is that there are too many people now living in Britain and there aren't the jobs to support them all - and that situation is about to become a whole lot worse. Out of boredom and escapism some turn to extremism to give them something to do whilst others turn to some form of criminal activity. But we do reap what we sow.

Iraq and Afghanistan are two completely different cases, however. Russia invaded Afghanistan, NATO did not; we were invited to participate in peace-keeping operations by the legitimate government of that country. There may be some justification for ill-feeling by sections of the Muslim community against us by virtue of Blair's "dodgy dossier", Gulf War 2 and the rendition flights which the Blair government tacitly approved despite all forms of torture being outlawed. Several British citizens were aboard those flights. I would even go so far as to suggest that such extremism will continue on our shores until Blair and his entire Cabinet are arrested and prosecuted for war crimes and their part in rendition.

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Oh dear, I don't know where to begin with all of this.
So I won't.

"A rod for our own backs" is ok for me.

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Ironic that the taliban were recruited, nurtured, supplied and funded by U.S. black ops to fight the wicked commies

Might not be good for wine production Dom

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True but we will have to live with that whatever happens just an accelerated process we would all be home more