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Discussion in 'Money Matters' started by Ollie3487, Aug 20, 2019.

  1. Ollie3487
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    Anyone have any suggestions on investment opportunities in Phillipines? Been looking around for a while.
  2. Druk1
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    Druk1 Well-Known Member

    Best suggestion is don't.
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  3. PorkAdobo
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    Personally, I would steer clear of any opportunities presented by 3rd parties in the Philippines. No matter how tempting and lucrative those opportunities seem, you might find it difficult to enforce your contractual rights in the future.

    Even if you make an investment in a family business, there is a strong chance this will be viewed as a gift rather than investment.
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  4. Ollie3487
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    Most my friends have bought multiple condos in philli and have made a killing. One friend has 22 apartments and sold a bunch already.

    Another friend owns a big resort and seems to do well.
  5. Ollie3487
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    Yep cheers with you there, won't get involved with any family and won't be investing in any schemes or anything run by someone else.
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  6. Druk1
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    Druk1 Well-Known Member

    They are the ones to give you the advice.
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  7. Ollie3487
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    Indeed. Just wondered if anyone on here was involved in something I hadnt heard of. Probably alot of opportunities in this growing country. Fiancees family opened a McDonald's for example which seems to be printing money.
  8. Anon04576
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    Not all McDo’s/Jollibees are killing it. I know someone who does the bookkeeping for a few and I’m told there are periods when they have struggled (keep in mind the initial outlay in these places too).

    It doesn’t come as a surprise, just look in a busy city they’re virtually a block or two apart.
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  9. PorkAdobo
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    Getting a Maccy D's franchise in the Philippines requires some serious coin. Not just the franchise fee, but there would be some huge overheads getting the operation started.

    In these circumstances, I'd be getting my fiancee to sponsor me.
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  10. CatchFriday
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    CatchFriday British Expat living in Alicante, Spain

    What kind of investment would you like to make?
    I know an American movie producer looking for Gap for films - he actually knows Duerte.
  11. Anon04576
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    Indeed.

    The franchise fee typically ranges from P30 million to P50 million, depending on the store location and store layout. McDonald’s requires restaurants to be placed in locations or land that are owned or leased by the franchisee.

    https://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/how-to-franchise-mcdonalds-philippines/

    EDIT & Importantly:

    McDonald’s grants franchises to an individual on a sole proprietorship basis. In the Philippines, franchises are also awarded on a per restaurant basis. Franchises are not awarded on a territorial or geographical basis.

    (hence 200 metres between each one :) )
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  12. Anon04576
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    Who's Duerte? :)
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  13. CatchFriday
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    CatchFriday British Expat living in Alicante, Spain

    Ok for a cash injection into a movie you can meet the President
  14. oss
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    If your friends own that many condos then they have very substantial funds available for investment, somewhere in the region of half a million pounds or more.

    That guess is based on bottom end cheap condo's in and around Metro Manila, if they have more upmarket properties then you could double or triple that guess as to available funds.

    I can think of a lot of ways to more safely invest that kind of money somewhere other than the Philippines, so what kind of ROI (Return on Investment) does a "killing" represent?
  15. Ollie3487
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    They got lucky with the time and doubled their money in 3 years before fees which are alot.
  16. Ollie3487
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    Yer they have a great location atm but I imagine others will move in soon.
  17. Druk1
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    I met him for nowt :ninja: much better than a cash gamble in the PI.
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  18. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    The adage that if you want to make a small fortune in the Fils its best to start with a large one is based on a fair bit of anecdotal reporting
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  19. oss
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    :D

    Yes that's true, but I would be willing to bet that the majority who went there looking for a quick profit lost their shirt, not all for the same reasons.

    Including at least one erstwhile relatively well off member of this site who ended up impoverished by the experience, losing his home and being placed in massive debt lasting to the present day and probably for another 16 years if he lives that long :D

    I wouldn't change a minute of the last 15 years but it has been painful :)
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  20. oss
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    That is certainly lucky, was that a numeric doubling or a doubling in value which accounted for the time their money had been invested?

    What time period was this, last decade, this decade?

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