Hello Brits in the Philippines.

Not possible no

My sister did NOT have a DSWD travel order,the child had a Brit passport,no one questioned it at mactan.There’s ALWAYS a way out.

My nephew and his girlfriend are not and we’re not married,the girlfriend did not accompany as she was in hospital almost dead.

Poses a few questions
1 where do they live Philippines, UKetc?
2 Had they all travelled in to the Philippines?

My nephew was in the UK,his girlfriend in cebu,the girlfriend was in hospital on the verge of death,the child was just under a year old born in the PI but had a Brit passport,because her mum was on the verge of death and my nephews daughter would have stayed with a VERY dysfunctional Philippine family my sis flew to mactan and returned to the UK the same day (obviously didn’t arrive the same day,but left the PI the same day).No one questioned in Cebu,the child travelled on a Brit passport.I have told the story on here a few years ago.

There is a way of getting in and out of the PI without leaving a trace,I have done it before but I wouldn’t like to take a child that route.

It means the mother can travel solo with the minor but not the father

Wow....

Nothing is ever set in stone in pinas,I am sure your aware of that by now.

Have a read of the thread below. Dont think original poster has been on board for some time.
Remembered some of detail and ties in with @Druk1 experience.

Law in uk is different to philippines and when in UK have shared parental responsibility under uk law as you are named on birth certificate. I would recommend getting uk legal advice but if child is in uk think in much stronger position. If mother isnt suitable to look after child then should go to you as you have parental rights.

http://www.british-filipino.com/ind...ving-philippines-on-a-british-passport.17428/

A few key elements from the second page.

"My girlfriend just came back from regional DSWD office. They told her because he has a British passport and I live in UK, he doesn't need a "DSWD travel clearance certificate".

But DSWD gave her a paper saying our son is exempt from requiring the travel clearance for filipino immigration. Girlfriend will accompany us to the airport in case immigration require an interview.My girlfriend just came back from regional DSWD office. They told her because he has a British passport and I live in UK, he doesn't need a "DSWD travel clearance certificate".

But DSWD gave her a paper saying our son is exempt from requiring the travel clearance for filipino immigration. Girlfriend will accompany us to the airport in case immigration require an interview."

"My son is finally in England. The Filipino immigration officer told me he only needs a British passport to leave even if he was born in Phillipines. But this doesn't seem to be documented anywhere. Having a Filipino passport is advantageous on returning to Philippines.

The Asian immigration official at Heathrow gave me grief about single fathers though. I was also "interviewed" by police at my local bus station, guilty of being a father alone with his baby son. Many stranger females will compliment you or berate you if you are with your young son or daughter."

Say you book return tickets and attempt to travel to the UK with your daughter.
She has a British passport with a Surname that matches your own. A return ticket is a good indication that you intend to return together So what are the odds they will not allow you to travel?
If the Child is traveling with a British passport as a British citizen what jurisdiction do Philippine (edited. BOI) have to stop you both?
I do not know the answer,sorry. Just thinking aloud here.

Sounds good to me...

I can't see why Mattecube - I read the law thing which was probably drafted with the 2 pinoy family in mind...

Also, what's the worst case scenario, apart from the family arriving from Mindanao before Richard gets her out ?

Has to cancel the flight? Has to bung the BI? Has to delay until he gets approval from the court or something?

Would have thought it was worth a shot.

And remember this isn't the UK: A simple letter signed by the wife authorising him to take the girl back to the UK for a holiday etc etc. not exactly mission impossible is it?

Very informative reply Heathen!

I presumed the 10/14 days delay was to give Richard time to make them an offer to keep their noses out.

They will on the British passport be able to see place of birth! I assume this will say ? Philippines.
It won’t be customs that check it will be immigration.
I still think it is not possible but that isn’t to say it isn’t!

No it isn’t the UK but have a look at the UK rules on taking a child abroad without the other parents permission not withstanding the UK rules on legitimacy the UK government respects the laws including family law of the Philippines.
Therefore not only if the Op cannot get the mothers permission is the op risking the wrath at the Philippines end but also at the UK end especially as there will be no exit stamp from the UK prior to child’s arrival.

Thanks. If the child is born in the Philippines but then attains British nationality are they automatically dual citizens?

As she has British passport and two actual examples of leaving without DWSD clearance i think there are good odds of doing it. Thread that I posted has covered person who actually had DWSD advice and told by immigration that DWSD clearance not required.

That said even if achieve has potential to get very messy but depending on your priority then may be willing to take the flak In the UK then should be between mother and father as opposed to mothers family who don't have parental responsibility.

Other things to think about are how old is OP and is he going to be round long enough to look after the child in the UK. Two now so how old is he going to be when daughter gets to 18 and is he likely to be around. OP has also been in philippines for last seven years and life is different now in UK. Going from comfortable life in philippines to much more expensive life in UK. Young child limits ability to work.

Child is legal heir so also need planning for that.

Family have overseas support so cant see them being bought off. That said do have some rights in philippines although if family have child expect very limited ability to exercise.

Not clear how much family know the child. Regular contact or effectively none so would be like taking child from parent that has been looking after to give to strangers.

If the childs father is british and he was born in uk then has british citizenship from birth. As mother is filipino also has filipino citizenship. The child is definitely a dual national.

So family turn up from Mindanao...

Who is going to stop them taking custody of the child?

Local barangay ? DSWD ? Richard ?

Find the letter the mother signed giving you permission to take her on holiday to the UK to meet your family there and get out before they milk you dry for the next 20 years

Yes as @Br28016 states child is duel citizen

Ya snooze ya lose,sometimes you have to know when to get out of dodge,nothing is more important than the child’s welfare,as long as the child is attached to the cash cow she is a bargaining chip for money.