Environment Protesters Trash The Environment

Yesterday kids skived off school to protest about the environment and climate change. That protest ended with a strong sense of "do as we say not as we do", leaving Westminster littered with plastic rubbish.

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Maybe if they werren't so busy dropping their litter they would learn that the UK has reduced CO2 emissions more than any other developed country, this year falling back to levels last seen in 1888.

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I was in Parliament Square. It was brilliant. So many kids marching, banging drums. Great atmosphere. That's what it was really. Kids doing something they will remember as being a great day out.

It doesn't matter if they got contradicted their own message. I thought it was fantastic seeing that. And, what with all the pro/anti Brexit loonies there on Wednesday, it's been a fun week in Westminster.

A shame, of course, that the propagandists have to get involved. Guido Fawkes, plus, as always, the Socialist Workers handing out placards with their name all over it.

A very entertaining time though. It's been carnival time!

Shouldn't kids be at school, rather than skiving off for a piss-up in London?

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...rike-students-take-to-the-streets-in-pictures

"We are bunking to educate adults"

Yes Guido Fawkes was certainly there - the video I posted in the OP is one of two the site published of that demo. But I would dispute your characterisation that he's a propagandist; the Guido Fawkes web site's content is somewhat more politically balanced than Labour List, Red Roar or The Canary, its Labour/Momentum supporting competitors.

As for this kids' day out, I think the following questions need to be answered:

1. What is the educational value of such an event?
2. By what right were the kids taken out of school and to a politically-motivated event?
3. Were the full facts of this political demonstration explained to the parents and their consent obtained?
4. Who benefited from this event and in what tangible way?
   
5. Given that you won't see much related to the environment or climate change in Parliament Square or elsewhere in Westminster, would it not have been better for those schools that participated in this event to adopt a stretch of coastline, canal, river or stream local to themselves and to extract all the rubbish which would benefit society generally?
6. This video of protesting school children demonstrating in Downing Street is the second of the two videos posted to the Guido Fawkes web site:
   
   
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   and Guido has it on very good authority that teachers were responsible for getting their young charges to chant vile abuse at the Prime Minister. This is horribly reminiscent of the online abuse being posted on social media by Labour's hard-left activists against the Jewish population - and especially Jewish MPs such as Margaret Hodge and Luciana Berger. How does this relate to the environment or to climate change. pray tell?
   
7. Who will pay the fines for absence that schools can and should impose - the kids or their teachers?

Bollocks. They were bunking off school at the behest of left-wing activists who were cynically using them for political purposes.

Close to none - and that's just the teachers!

about as many us us on here , a totaly nonsence test to begin with

1. Survival ( of no interest to you clearly)
2. Their parents
3. If you think "survival " is "Political" (in a party sence) your nuttyer than I suspect
4. The Planet (and the future of these kids)
5. Any actions would be good including what happened and what you suggest
6. Very good authority?(more like your bias)
7. What a moronic question

Yours? or clean ones

Survival? What did these kids learn about survival - unless, of course, you mean their own personal survival in managing to stay alive on a day-trip to the murder capital of the western world.

Survival isn't political but that demo had absolutely nothing to do with it.

The planet didn't and probably won't benefit from that event. It will benefit however from the work that Michael Gove and his team are doing at Defra including reducing and eventually outlawing single-use plastics, phasing-out internal combustion engines, banning the installation of gas boilers in new homes from 2025, reforestation etc., etc. Your mate, the London Mayor, promised a large tree-planting programme for London in his election manifesto: not one tree has he planted.

As for who organised the Downing Street chanting, here's a screen-grab of the relevant page on the Guido Fawkes site - pay particular attention to the sentence printed in red:

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and now apologise for yet another one of your false accusations.

Finally - your point 7 - the question is very apposite. Following the first of these school kid skive-off school days climate demonstrations, some schools imposed fines on the parents of those kids who attended. I read that the parents concerned were more than a tad miffed as they were led to believe that the extra-curricular activity was officially sanction by the school and education authorities.

Yours, Tick Turd.

I, personally, think the kids will get a lot from a good old march on Parliament Square. Of course they are going to shout some silly anti government stuff. It's part of the fun, and not to be taken too seriously politically. I would have done the same at 15, and I'm not even sure who was prime minister. Heath or Wilson, probably.

There were also quite a lot of, for want of a better term, the great unwashed there milling about. Plenty of beany hats and batique trousers worn by people who look far to old to be at school.

But it was great, for me. Livened up my work day no end!

Your points are well-made, Graham. But if I were a parent of a 15 or 16 year old who's taking 8, 9 or 10 GCSEs in a couple of months' time, I'd be concerned that such an event on a term-time weekday isn't the best use of teachers' time, has no real educational value but caused traffic jams and wasted valuable Police resources.

I probably wouldn't mind so much if this event were organised during half-term or school holidays.

The funny thing is, I'm a father of an 18 year old and a 15 year old, and as I stood watching I thought it would have been really cool if they'd been involved.

Teenagers these days are so sterilised with phones and social media. I think they need something like this to stir the soul a bit these days.

You get no argument from me regarding teenagers, phones and social media. But I do think the youngsters involved would have got more out of their day-off school had they actually done something positive to help the environment rather than shouting about the perceived lack of action by others. And guess what - they may actually have seen some wildlife whose habitat they'd be in the process of restoring and protecting!

Demonstrations won't fix the environment; you have to get involved, don the wellies and get your hands dirty to do that.

Not the end of the world..
My turbo charged burn barrel would turn those placards to dust in about 15 minutes..

I saw the protests in Manchester when we went to do our biometrics. Its good that kids have passion for a cause. Sitting on your backside being an armchair warrior is hardly an ivory tower to condemn from. See you in London on Saturday 23rd.. we will recycle our placards... promise. Trying to get more than Farage's march.. fingers crossed

The kids were making the most of not being cooped up in a classroom with sir or miss droning on about something that they're not interested in and they'll probably forget all about. Given the choice of double maths or a day out with encouragement to shout obscenities and a chance of appearing on the telly news, which would you take?

Yet many do exactly that - on FaceBook, Twitter and other (anti-)social media platforms. They have a pack mentality and pick on certain individuals and groups. Labour's anti-Semitic activists and the Cyber-Nats are two such examples of collections of keyboard commandos.

It's not technically Farage's march but one organised by "Leave Means Leave". I understand Farage left the march today (his presence is required in Brussels) and plans to rejoin it as it enters the capital on the morning of the 29th.

I remember marching agaianst the bomb when I was young as well as a couple of other protests. I'm not cynical and think its good for kids to be politically engaged. I am absolutely appalled at the mob mentality of trolls these days. I see it directly with the attacks on the trans community which has ironically been highlighted by many men now "supporting" women's rights. L:ets not get into that though, the point is that we do not see discussion or engagement but this mob mentality. Momentum are a classic example of this.

I think Farage will try to stay away what has been a PR disaster. I admire him for his gall though. He is nothing if not entertaining, unlike the clown BoJo who is an idiot.