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Do you remember British detained?

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by Januarius, Jan 26, 2011.

  1. Januarius
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    Well her (Charlene Taylor)posts stopped on her blogs ,her facebook page and just about everywhere else she went to in desperation for help..
    I now feel thoroughly ashamed that I didnt pay attention to her plight when she most needed it.
    She is now probably in that death camp san Mateo (and I mean DEATH camp) with or separate from her British husband Kevin??
    They have not been charged with anything as far as I am aware with no arraignment hearing or trial for probably another 2 or 3 years.
    They had 6 children that may have had to be adopted since their incarceration which breaks my heart to be honest..
    If you visit this site,please take the time to read Kevins letters composed on a cell floor shared with 90 inmates almost 2 years ago now. http://taylorsqualifiedworkers.blogspot.com/
    If you have any ideas or wish to start or join our humble and stumbling campaign please visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/philippinedreams1/messages

    Salamat po.

    PS.. My Englis is getting to be better..No? What are you think?

    Chodzi
    Januarius
  2. Aromulus
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    Your englis, not bad for a transplanted european.
    Here try this as well.......

    http://www.president.gov.ph/contact/default.aspx

    I did fire a message to this place alread, a few days ago, but the lack of answer may stem from the fact that I cannot access that particular gmail account, due to forgetting the passsword...:erm:
    One of the senior moments I keep getting from time to time.
    But the small contraband is in situ, and it is just matter for the carrier to liaise with the bold eagle as to when a where to meet for the first transfer to take place.
    Daft bugger.... she was in Panglao just the other day......:erm: See...??? Senior moments.........:erm:
  3. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    what you want to do fred
  4. Januarius
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    Januarius Member

    Where is she now? Ive no wish to give her the run around..
    Anyway thanks again.
  5. Januarius
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    What I want to do Keith is get some verifiable facts together,produce a letter draft and bombard the British press..
    This approach has worked a few times believe it or not..
    Apart from that,Im not certain and Im making it up as I go along.
    It could be me..Or any of us stuck in that hole..
  6. oss
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    Verifiable facts will be hard to come by at this juncture Fred a lot of time has gone by, I think the best that can be achieved is where are they now and what is the status of the charges.

    If it turns out that they are still on remand 2 years later then that is grounds enough for a campaign to get them released.

    From memory Kevin was not the one with the cash it was Charlene who funded Kevin and the business, she had independent resources built up in the past, not your typical Uk-Phil story, from memory I think she was pretty close to broke by the time she was imprisoned they, can't even bribe their way out even if they wanted to. :(

    I did exchange a couple of messages 20 months or so ago with Charlene on the other site while she was still free but nothing of substance.

    I have two lawyer friends in Manila I will try to ask them if it is possible to enquire about Kevin and Charlene.

    I've joined up on the yahoo group, it does look encouraging that people are getting stirred up about this.

    Puts a new perspective on things for me as Ana is always worried about Police stopping me and planting something on my person, like drugs, to generate false charges when I am there, I usually dismiss her fears as being over the top but it's probably not that over the top in reality.

    Just tonight the trike she was using was stopped at a checkpoint on the way back from our store, the trike driver was outside his boundary and because my daughter Janna is obviously foreign the police started asking Ana why she was not travelling with her asawa, Ana started to panic as she could see them building up to a bribe and she had no cash on her, so she told them she had problems with me and that we were no longer together, she got home but was quite upset.

    Ridiculous that she should instinctively be afraid of the police instead of seeing them as being on her side, but that's the way it is over there.
  7. oss
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    I've asked my lawyer if there is any way to enquire about Kevin and Charlene Fred, I'll let you know what he says, he usually takes a couple of days to get back to me.
  8. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    If I end up going to Manila on Visa stuff perhaps a fact finding mission and or visit
  9. oss
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    Fred I got a reply from my pal already, (he always calls me sir even though he is my daughters Ninong (godfather) :D)

    My pals mention of trying to use the British Embassy is relevant as he used to work in the legal department of the Korean Embassy in Manila and this kind of enquiry was not uncommon for him.
  10. Januarius
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    Thank you oss and thanks to your friend for the advice. I think we need direct contact with whoever visits Kevin from the Brit embassy.. About the best I can do from here is try to establish a correspondence with someone there but I have my doubts that they will want to share any data to anyone other than a lawyer working directly for the Taylors..
    Can I share your friends letter to you on the other group to keep us on track?
    I will also fire off some letters with self addressed envelopes to the Jail addressed to the Taylors.. I wont hold by breath waiting a reply but worth a try I suppose.
    Keep the ideas coming guys.


    Thanks Keith..I want to try the same but as Im on my own with the kids here its not really feasible for at least a month.
  11. oss
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    Yeah that's fine Fred on you go.
  12. Januarius
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    oss..
    I think we ran into another HUGE obstacle.. The British embassy,who are unable to give any information without the express permission of the Taylors due to the data protection act!!
    The only purpose of the British embassy is to receive funds for visas and passports IMO..
    I should have known better!
  13. oss
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    Good point, bleedin morons :frust: :mad:
  14. KeithAngel
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    Keep in touch Fred im still on the same number:like:
  15. Januarius
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    Got a feeling your number was on my old sim card that packed up..PM it to me please.

    Some good news but some bad news too.. What do you want first?

    OK..the good news is her sister says they are both alive and healthy.

    The bad news is the growing charges they face are not bailable so they are there till they go to trial.
    All very sad.
  16. Aromulus
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    Bureocracy....... The insidious enemy of humanity...........
  17. KeithAngel
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    There was apost on the Cebu forum about some car ringers getting bail 17 times for diferent offences what have they been charged with?
  18. Januarius
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    No idea,but if the punch line is any good,I`ll stick it my joke thread!
  19. Januarius
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    Just a quick update..

    One of many guys on other lists have been contacting Alfred from info@foreign-assistance-center.com
    I contacted him myself early on with not much luck in regards to action..Probably due to the fact that he needed to know where the funding was coming from.
    Since he must be getting a lot of emails and telephone calls it looks like he has traced and visited Charlene and Kevin.. This is what the guy that is in contact with him says..

    "Hi Bill, Mr Lenhert is being very upfront with us.I asked what a lawyer would cost and that was his reply,minimum P650,000. Now if you can find a competent lawyer to take this case like this for less then we can hook him up with Mr Lenherd.From what i can gather,Mr Lenherd has to educated most lawyers when it comes to foreigners and the laws in this country. Let me say i would be more confident in a lawyer recommended by Mr Lehnerd to get the results needed.
    If nothing else at least we can verify where they are and their condition.We will have a better understanding of what is going on if we can get Me Lehnert to start digging and hell,who knows Mr Lehnert may be able to get something happening really quick if there was no arrest warrent or if it is found out Mr n Taylor was arrest illegally. All i know is that all this talking is not getting Mr Taylor anywhere,if we act,we act now.Mr Lenhert needs to know what support he has before he tackles this situation. There are "doors" that need to be opened and the "keys" to open those doors expect "appreciation".
    This is serious **** and it is going to take some serious support. Just for conversation sake,100 guys donating P6500,heck even i can afford that.Maybe that is what we should shoot for,100 names,can we do it?"






    "Just got of the phone with Mr Lenhert.He has found Mr Kevin and Charlene,they are not at Camp Crame but where they are at is not good, and they are in very bad shape. I told Mr Lenherd that he will not here from me again until i can have at least 100 names.It's up to you all now.Please pass this info to any and all foreigners."

    Basically this guy reckons we need 100 people that are prepared to donate 6,500 Pesos each..

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NowMindanao/message/9065

    Personally I have no problem with donating that amount but I do think we need a lawyer that is prepared to work MUCH cheaper in the knowledge that there are 100`s of foreigners backing him/her..
    IMO that would make them famous!! at least within the Filipino/expat community..
    I have been very surprised by the volume of support by people that had never even heard of the Taylors.
    It has been suggested that we take things slow...I agree.

    These efforts may well come to nothing but at the very least the Taylors know there are people thinking of them since the visit by Alfred.
    Januarius.
  20. KeithAngel
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    Invitations to aid in corruption , why doesnt the poster give there location????

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