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David Attenborough: 'Climate Change 2007 predictions for 2020

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by KeithAngel, Aug 15, 2019.

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  3. KeithAngel
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    16 years later ..finally and painfully the Truth

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    Keith. If you are there. Nobody is interested in the demise of their only planet.
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    Should have bought in urumqui, right on the edge of the taklamakhan desert, I am sure I was told its the city furthermost from any ocean on the planet (bit of a dive though).
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    Well that’s it. We all want a sea view or a house on a river flood plain but moan when we get flooded out. Having said that you don’t have to live by the sea or on a river bank to have a nice place to live.
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    He's still around but he won't reply I'm afraid, apart from the emojis.
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    Just watching the Attenborough documentary again just now.
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    I had a pm from him a couple of days ago to tell me he has just bought Robert Lustig’s book where he describes his discovery of Ludkins work. Great choice Keith. :like:
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    Once you can tie it all in to this fellers work then it is beyond reasonable doubt.
    Hugh Jenkyns on the oceanic anoxic events. This video gives an overview. But his papers give the evidence. Landmark stuff on Climate Change evidence.

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    As far as I was concerned it was beyond reasonable doubt from the early 1980s, as you know I've already concluded that it is too late, as a species we won't come together to do anything about it because the rich polluting world is full of climate denying nutters who will rationalise away any evidence presented to them.

    You have the deniers who simply believe the world is too big for people to affect it and who are incapable of picturing the reality of a relatively small finite planet.

    Then you have the deniers who agree that change is happening but according to them it is natural and would happen anyway people have nothing to do with it it has to be the volcanos or the sun, so they are totally secure in their delusion nothing can change their minds and to them it's natural so we can't do anything about it.

    Then you have the deniers who just don't give a crap, they only care that their tomorrow is the same as today and that things are ok for them, a lot of them think hey it's cool if they get warmer weather in cooler latitudes, these ones don't get that climate change is chaos and not just the odd nice few weeks of summer, these ones will cry like babies when it actually starts to affect them directly.

    There are more denying types but the common feature is that their beliefs always let them argue for doing nothing or next to nothing.

    Depressing but also predictable.
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    so where will be the safest place on earth to live when all this happens?
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    Billionaires are building shelters in New Zealand, Gérard Butler is placing bets on Greenland, I have been in a nuclear bunker five floors down in the middle of nowhere, I just hope the door isn't locked by the time I get there.
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    Having rewatched the David Attenborough prophecy, what was your conclusion?
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    He was spot on, prescient, if anything the reality is a little further on in terms of expected temperatures.
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    Our generation will mostly live out our lives with just a little bit of weather chaos towards the end, we get to have a good wealthy life own property have a descent retirement and we leave our children and others to pay the bill when we check out.

    For our kids well they will live in a more and more stressed world they will see the impact of sea level changes and even more weather chaos, potential famine and huge pressure for migration to more northern latitudes as many equatorial regions become uninhabitable. They will see war and disaster on an unprecedented scale, events that many people, many scientists, could see coming and warned about but who were ignored, you will also get more health disasters like the last 2 years due to humans coming into close contact with species that they would not normally share space with.

    In a hundred years time your adult elderly grand children if they survive will be living in a world where people are trying to move further and further north, Scotland will be too warm, if we get the worst levels of warming the clathrate bomb as John once called it will go off and that really will be the Extinction Event that some people can see coming.

    Extinction Rebellion is portrayed as some kind of derogatory over dramatic movement but they are in reality being completely realistic, we are facing the end of the vast majority of life on this planet over the next few hundred years.

    Oh and just for fun, the first cases of Marburg virus have just been found in Western Africa in Guinea, it's a relative of Ebola, last outbreak was in 2017 in Uganda where 3 people came down with it, 100% fatal, in prior outbreaks it ranged from 25% to 88% fatal, sounds bad but it's probably a good thing that it is that lethal as it makes it harder for it to spread, and once again the natural reservoir of this disease is bats.

    When climate starts to force vast migration which it is already doing to some extent the displacement of people is going to add to the cross species disease pressure as previously unoccupied environments act as temporary homes for migrants.

    To finally answer your question there are those who genuinely believe that we as a species will be taking up residence in Antarctica eventually as that continent melts and greens.
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