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Coronavirus in the UK

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by aposhark, Mar 4, 2020.

  1. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Specifically the antibody test, and only once they have an accurate one 95% is not good enough.

    The antigen test (the test for presence of active virus) would have to be repeated over and over again, get tested then walk through someones cough cloud 5 minutes later and you need to get tested again.
  2. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    How to reduce the risk of the worst happening:

    The BMJ writes on LDL. Thought to be instrumental in the onset of heart disease but modern thinking has turned that on its head. LDL is proving to be the means by which we can improve our immune systems.

    https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m1182/rr-10

    How? By eating plenty of eggs, and good fats such as meat and dairy fats and nuts.

    LDL? In the past it has been known as “bad cholesterol”.

    “As LDL-cholesterol is able to inactivate virus as well (6,7) patients on cholesterol-lowering treatment and with a life-threatening Covid-19-infection should cease this treatment; at least until they have recovered from the infection.”
  3. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Interesting.
  4. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    ive read so much contradictory advice over the years--cholestrol--diabetes--weight loss etc--i gave up. all i do now is avoid sugar to a large degree--eat meat and veg and reduce carbs intake. ive lost one and a half stones and feel better for it. i take long term prescription meds to lower my naturally high cholestrol. its below 4 nowadays.
  5. Heathen
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    Heathen Active Member

    Whats the situation with the Ferries down there on the Island Bigmac, a reduced service ?, I would have thought they still need to run due to people having a need to get to work etc, but they must be losing money hand over fist..
  6. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    https://www.healthline.com/health/eggs-and-cholesterol
  7. PorkAdobo
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  8. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

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  9. PorkAdobo
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    No. The police (and government) are always open for criticism.

    If a shop is open, the police have no business deciding what can be purchased.

    Likewise, the police in Cambridge can truly get stuffed if they think I'm going to snitch on my neighbours.

    https://www.cambs.police.uk/report/Report-a-breach-of-COVID-19-restrictions
  10. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    No.....the police are trying to save lives, which is a lot more important than anything else.

    Last edited: Apr 8, 2020
  11. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    i think just limited hovercraft services..and car ferries for freight.
  12. PorkAdobo
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    Great, but if local or national authorities decide an establishment can remain open, the police have no business adding their own touches to this.

    It is more dangerous *not* to scrutinise the police in the current climate.
  13. Druk1
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    Druk1 Well-Known Member

    Moved to Cambridge now eh? Nice :)
  14. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    PorkAdobo,
    What don't you understand in the phrase "Stay Home, Protect The NHS, Save Lives"?
    You seem to be concentrating on small examples of personal liberties and completely missing the big picture.
    People are dying in vast numbers.
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  15. walesrob
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    The government's advice is only shop for essentials. Most people are complying with this, but some insist their civil liberties are more important than catching a deadly virus. Hence the reason the police need to intervene. If the few had heeded the advice given to them in the first place, there wouldn't be a need to punish the majority. Its NOT an attack on civil liberties, the government and the police are only doing this to save lives. No conspiracy theory, no excuses.

    Has the penny dropped yet?
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  16. PorkAdobo
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    Then close down the dammed shop! If I go out to buy milk, am I a social outcast if I also pick up a bunch of daffodils? If the milk is sold out, do I have to put back the daffodils?
  17. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Is your wife with you in the UK?
    Do you have children there also?
    Don't you care for them?

    You seem to care more about shops.
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  18. Aromulus
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    I don't recall this being mentioned on the forum, if yes, please direct me to the relevant post/s.

    I reckon in a society as varied as here in the UK, it would be interesting to study the impact of coronavirus on different ethnicities.

    How many confirmed cases, cured cases, deaths and so on.
    Just to see if apart from age, pre=existing conditions, if smoking and/or vaping is involved, Arial pollution, etc. etc. per ethnic group.

    I have read somewhere, that in the US, a large proportion of african american are affected compared to other groups
    And if true, I find it, not just a strange occurrence, but a disturbing one.
  19. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Malcolm or Mike mentioned it before, I can't remember where the post is.

    While it is possible that there is some genetic component it is awfully unlikely as there is only tiny variation in the genetic makeup of the entire human race.

    If there is a difference then it is much more likely related to different diet or lifestyle choices associated with a particular ethnic population, the point that John brought up regards LDL is a potentially interesting avenue to explore.

    It is unlikely that there will be any detailed analysis on such a basis until well after this is all over.
  20. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    yes i did mention it--and i think it is important in the quest for a cure.

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