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Are families being priced out of restaurants?

Discussion in 'Life in the UK' started by John Surrey, Feb 15, 2026.

  1. John Surrey
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    John Surrey Well-Known Member Trusted Member

  2. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    We used to go either to Nando's or/and La Fattoria (Italian Restaurant in Chester) at least once a month, but by the time one takes into account food costs increases and car parking charges it is clearly understandable that it is not worth anymore. One feels regret at spending such an obscene amount of money for so little.
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  3. John Surrey
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    John Surrey Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    It's a double whammy for the hospitality industry: COL crisis on one side and government taxing them to death on the other...
  4. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    i havent been in a restaurant for years--except macdonalds.
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  5. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    When we go out in our great city of culture and ethnic diversity,we use the40:1 rule and enjoy ourselves
  6. John Surrey
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    John Surrey Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Is that a bin dipper thing ?

    Never heard of it - can you ELI5 ?
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    ?
  8. John Surrey
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    John Surrey Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    the "forty to one" rule - never heard of it - Explain it to me Like I'm 5 please :D
  9. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    40 bins dipped one meal, proud of my heritage
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  10. oss
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    I looked up "bin dipping" a derogatory term disparaging the poor of Liverpool apparently aimed at Liverpool fans and residents, I still don't really get it?

    Are you trying to say 40 meals at home before you would go out for a meal?

    Bin dipping would basically be the same as "pagpag".
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    The term originated during the 1970s and 1980s, a period marked as you know by high unemployment, poverty, and social unrest in Liverpool. It implies that people were so poor they had to forage in bins for food or valuable items.
    Some time shortly after this period it was picked up as a derogerty chant towards in the main Liverpool Football club who oddly enough were enjoying unparalleled success on the football field, so i guess there was a level of jealousy, a bit of a wanna be football star Trevor Sinclair Man Cityused the term in a media write up and had to rretract his use of the term but among the ignorent rivals the name calling has stuck.
    I must admit apart from @John Surrey and a couple of ex members using the term ive never heard it mentioned on Merseyside
    Proud of my heritage, proud of my home city

    Yes PagPag implies the same or similar
    Pagpag refers to leftover food from fast-food restaurants or supermarkets scavenged from garbage sites, then washed and recooked for consumption by people living in extreme poverty in the Philippines. Originating from the Tagalog word meaning "to shake off dust," it is a survival method for the urban poor.
    40:1 rule is a loose term i picked up somewhere, sometime when trying to on our travels when deciding where to eat
    If you see40 locals eating in there ( you dont have to count them) the eatary meets local approval so its good enough for us.
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    @oss just edited my post
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  13. oss
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    Which is literally the case in various parts of Metro Manila like Tondo even today and even locally in Las Pinas where the families of two of Ana's sisters would scavenge the garbage piles for plastics and food 20 years back.

    I appreciate your explanation, my home town of Paisley is going through that poverty today although I doubt anyone is reduced to searching the bins and I doubt many folk in Liverpool ever had to actually do that but times were certainly awful back then.
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Ah ok I get the point with your clarification edit.
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  15. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    I remember vividly arriving in the Philippines for the first time and seeing families living under intersection bridges in abject poverty and folk searching bins for plastic they could sell on for recycling.
    I still see that in my head to this day some 16 years later, and i would hazard a guess its still goingnon today
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  16. oss
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    Yes it is, there are individuals and families and kids with no families living under bridges less than 600 metres from where I live over there today. Still begging at car windows amongst others who are a bit more organised, it's been like that for the whole 21 years I've spent there back and forth.

    Heartbreaking.
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  17. John Surrey
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    Personally I'm not sure what all the whinging about, I just did my own R(estaurant)PI, loosely based on the min wage and a BigMac meal:

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    Is it now half the size?

    Seems like the peasants have never had it so good!

    Certainly won't taking my kids to any place where they want £18 for a chicken quarter!
  18. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    yes a big mac is now half the size.. rather like me
  19. John Surrey
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    :D I see... haven't had one for a while...

    So you have to work more than an hour to pay for a big mac meal - yes I can see why people are whinging now :like:

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