I have looked through, however I will need my solicitor to take a proper look as it's complicated and it is not clear where I stand in this situation. My partner has called and stated that the document after annulment does not show any marriage... this meaning it did not exist. I hope that is the case as it would feel strange adopting my own child. Thanks again.
Thanks Matt trying to keep up with messages. I responded incorrectly it was meant for another poster. My apologies... newbie
Philippine annulments are weird. My wife got one..even though she had already divorced her fili husband when she was in the UK beforehand. Just a money making racket to fill pockets in their legal system.
Passport office don’t often lead you to what is legal procedures to other countries. They only deal with what they know with UK law but technically, although it is your biological child, if the mother is still married back in the Philippines, the father by Philippines law is the existing husband. With regards to Cenomar, sometimes they fail to submit the existing marriage which can happen why her Cenomar shows she’s is still single. In order to do this properly, ensure that you process her annulment, followed by adopting your biological child which is going to be easy because all you have to do is submit a DNA proving you are the biological father. You have to satisfy both UK and Philippines official documentation and you’re good to go!
I am not I'm Hi Mystic I will be undertaking a paternity to enclose with my child's UK Passport application. Would there be any particular DNA lab to use in Cebu that connects with UK Government guidelines. Thanks for your assistance.
Adoption is only to suffice the Philippines documentation. This is totally different with UK law in which you only have to submit the original birth certificate which states you are the father and there’s no need to include the adoption papers. I happen to know about this because my sister who recently died has a son with an American whilst she is still married to her Filipino husband.
You’re most welcome! With regards to DNA, I think you would need to contact and ask the British embassy as they would suggest a reputable DNA clinic that are accredited by them. My Nephew’s case is with American embassy, so when they approached the American embassy, they were given an accredited clinic to go to. Good luck!
There is a difference with annulment and divorce. With annulment, yes the child seem to have become illegitimate as there won’t be any record of marriage which I think is hypocrite. With divorce, the children does not become illegitimate. For instance, Annulment when you ask for Cenomar, there won’t be anything in the record as if the marriage never happen. With Divorce it will be still recorded in Cenomar. My brother annulled his first wife and when he is ready to marry the new woman he met and was asked for a Cenomar in Singapore, there is no record of previous marriage. With regards to your child birth certificate, as you already mentioned your name was written on the birth certificate, there won’t need for the recognition or acknowledgment. As I already said, adoption only applies to Philippines documentation formality which is totally different with UK documentation. So you can directly use the DNA and birth certificate of your child on your passport application after you sort out all your issues with the child mother’s annulment.
That will work in my benefit as at the time of birth I am on the Birth certificate. If there is no record of Marriage, then surely I would be her legal Father? No record of marriage would mean I would only need to show birth certificate and DNA results to prove I am the legal and biological Father.
That is correct! So no need to get confused between the Philippines law to UK law. They go according to what they have in the book. Their brains are limited and could not handle 2 different law in different countries.
Filipino citizen cannot divorce their Filipino spouse on or before August 17, 2021. Or any Filipino married to foreigner cannot divorce their foreign spouse as it will not be acknowledged under Philippines law on or before August 17, 2021. But foreign spouse can divorce their Filipino spouse and the Filipino spouse would have to submit the divorce for recognition under Philippines law. Philippines is the only country that doesn’t have divorce until the Bill has been recently approved by the Congress. If and when the Filipino managed to divorce the Filipino spouse in other country on or before August 17,2021, he/she will still go to the process of annulment if he/she wants to maintain the Filipino Citizenship. https://www.loc.gov/item/global-leg...mmittee-referred-to-house-plenary-for-debate/
The thing with Philippines divorce, before the divorced bill got approved, Filipino cannot divorce their Filipino spouse so they have to go through the process of annulment. Similarly with Filipino cannot divorce their foreign spouse but the foreign spouse can divorce their Filipino spouse and the Filipino spouse would only submit the divorce papers to be acknowledge. Otherwise, Filipino spouse cannot cast the divorce before on or 17 of August 2021, so it also have to go through an annulment if this has gone through before that date. If we tried to divorced our foreign spouse it will not be acknowledgeable if it is casted before the divorce bill has been approved in the c0ngress which is again, August 17, 2021. But now the divorced has been approved in the Congress Filipino can now cast the divorce to their foreign spouse.
All sounds very complicated. We were asked for Cenomars for our UK Child passports - My wife hadn't been married before and nor had I so... maybe this is just a some jobsworth ticking his boxes... If your wife now has her divorce/anullment papers perhaps all she needs to do is apply for a Cenomar. And to be frank they can't be that difficult to get here given the number of woman/men we know who, already married to one Filipino, trip over to another Region and get married to another! How that all works in detail I have no idea but .... I'm sure it's cheaper than the annulment route!
So my partner has just given annulment. This was before August 2021. So now she would have to My partners annulment has now been completed, but cemonar not received yet. Does the cemonar certificate show her past marriage or is it totally removed from the cemonar showing nothing?
Hi All, Now married and moving on. Please could you advise documents needed to send to UK for childs first passport? Our last application was denied due to my partner not completed annulment. However that nightmare is now over and completed! Any advice for documents that would benefit the passport application appreciated.
