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“Your time is up, white people”

Discussion in 'News from the UK, Europe and the rest of the World' started by Bootsonground, Feb 7, 2019.

  1. Bootsonground
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    “Your time is up, white people”:

    South Africa Sets Date for “White Farmers Land-grab Law”

    “The South African National Assembly has agreed to the establishment of a committee that will draft an amendment to section 25 of the Constitution. This law will basically allow the government to force people out of their homes and refuse to pay them any form of compensation. The motion gives the committee a deadline of March 31, 2019 to complete its work.”

    So South Africa’s white farmers, already targets for garden-variety murder and theft, now face imminent, officially sanctioned theft. IOL provides more detail:

    The motion was adopted with 183 votes in favour and 77 against. There were no abstentions.

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/worl...ica-sets-date-for-white-farmers-land-grab-law
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    Here we go again..

  3. graham59
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    Not sure how stupidity is dispersed among the SA population... but. :rolleyes:

    Next they'll be inviting those nice Chinese people in.
  4. Druk1
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    I flew from Heathrow a few days ago,I was having a breakfast in terminal 3 and met a couple and their three kids who had just arrived to settle in the UK,both said they were very gratefull to the UK for allowing them to settle as SA has "many problems" I didn't ask them to elaborate.
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    This looks to me like another Zimbabwe in the making, however the native population wont benefit from any land grab, it will still be the rich few, and the poor masses..
  6. Drunken Max
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    Its a follow on from what we saw in Zimbabwe. I get the resentment but its historical and you would think the lessons learned from Zimbabwe would be learnt but this is not about land grabbing for justice and reparations. This is about winning votes when the rest of your domestic policy is going down the pan and the white minority are an easy target because they tend to leave the country to preserve their lives.

    What rarely gets reported also is that wide scale murder of political opponents in Zimbabwe and SA. It is literally a warzone in many countries where politics are concerned.
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    Also rarely reported is that it is the African workforce that loses most. The family of friends of mine had been farming in Zim for well over a century. They provided their 100-plus workforce with a decent wage, a home, education for their kids and medical facilities They could afford to, they had several square miles of mixed crop and cattle as well as a vineyard. Then Mugabe's goons arrived and took over the farm, paying no compensation but did allow the erstwhile owners to continue living in their house for a year. During that time, not one cow was milked, no seeds were sown, no crops harvested, no wages were paid and the land was starting to become eroded but the new owner (a close friend of Mugabe) didn't care. All he wanted was the prestige and status of being one of the largest land owners. That's Communism in action, folks.
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    Its not communism in action at all. The redistribution of wealth supported by communists into collective ownership and benefit is not the same as giving it all to one person. Its unfortunate that the best example of communism is still Star Trek but it would help if people understood their political dogmas
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    My point exactly. Mugabe was a professed communist (Marxist) and my concluding sentence was an expression of irony.
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    Sorry
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    No problem, my friend :)
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    Talking of Communism,about the only country offering the white farmers refuge and alternative farm land is Russia..

    Why Russia is wooing South Africa’s white farmers.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...c1439c96d79_story.html?utm_term=.4d746cf70709

    Also,Graham mentioned China that already have huge investments in Africa... They are just waiting for a brand new and hugely lucrative new investment in SA.. Such investment will only benefit the corrupt ANC leadership..
    The poor will starve.

    Many white SA farmers will fight to the death to protect their farms.
    If the blacks kick them out,the SA economy will free fall.

    Leftist Western media fake news are not really covering this major development and exercise in pure racism..
    You have to look at channels like Fox news to get a better picture.

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    The Media is LYING About South Africa Farm Seizures and Trump Tweets.
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    That is an interesting point although ToS and TNG might be the best examples illustrating it, DS9 doesn't quite fit, but even then both of the early series had many exceptions to the rule of having abolished basic need, and trading was still a feature of the universe in those times.

    The point in Star Trek was that with sufficient power technology i.e. energy all need and want could be eliminated and Gene was right, in such a world people could be freed to pursue higher goals in life, but not all would want to do so.

    The advent of the experiments in a basic fundamental income for all is the beginning of a transition to that kind of world but it will take a revolution in education and the orientation of human desire and the discovery of a higher purpose like Star Fleet's exploration of the Universe to bring it to fruition in the face of the continuing desire of one man to exploit another.
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    Conversely we could become the "power structure" dominated by a single ,winner take all , corporation or AI in the dystopean Matrix for example
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    "Facts are facts.without white farmers in S.A that`s 30 million fewer meals every day"


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  17. Drunken Max
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    The abolition of money seems to be the key
  18. oss
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    Yeah but they break that rule on numerous occasions in all three series, Voyager doesn't count as they spent all there time elsewhere.
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  19. Drunken Max
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    Do they do it on earth though? Difficult to tell as not much is staged on earth.
  20. oss
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    Fair point but the impression given in Star Trek is that the whole world works for Star Fleet :) at least you never really see anything other than the odd bar tender doing any other work.

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