Biden vs Trump

Reshaping the federal judiciary : STUFFING JUDICIARY FULL OF UNQUALIFIED RIGHT WING NOVICE JUDGES NOT TO MENTION THE PARTISAN TREATMENT OF THE SUPREME COURT.

Space Force : JOKE LIKE WE REALLY NEED MORE MILITARISATION OF SPACE ALSO IT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE 1 September 1982 when the Air Force Space Command came into existence.

Tax reform : FOR THE VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY RICH, ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT ANY ORDINARY JOE GOT WILL EXPIRE WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND IT WAS DESIGNED THAT WAY.

First Step Act : BIPARTISAN ACT SPONSORED BY 2 REPUBLICANS AND 2 DEMOCRATS, TRUMP WAS SKEPTICAL, YES HE SIGNED IT EVENTUALLY.

Salary Donation : YOU MEAN HIS SALARY? HIS GOLF TRIPS EXCLUSIVELY AT HIS COURSES COST THE PEOPLE MORE THAN 130 MILLION DOLLARS HE'S MILKED HIS POSITION AT EVERY TURN.

Defeating ISIS's caliphate and killing Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi : JOHN BOLTON "ISIS WILL REMAIN" Trump Says ISIS Is Defeated. Reality Says Otherwise. - POLITICO Magazine

Union Representation Mexico Canada trade deal : IS THIS TWO POINTS OR ONE, yes Biden agreed that USMCA was better than NAFTA. Joe Biden admits Trump's USMCA is 'better than NAFTA' (nypost.com)

Depends on what you think is right for people most of what you suggest as achievements look pretty wrong to me.

You can't say that about Trump, that requires us to believe that he has a grown up adult sense of morality, he's a narcissist he doesn't give a s**t about anyone else, everything is about him, I could almost swear he was a true solipsist as well.

Just to add to my earlier reply a fortnight ago which Mattecube just decided to dislike today

First step act, a bill promoted by Trump's son in law Jared Kushner, bit of self interest there as Kushner's father is a convicted criminal, he was convicted for illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion and witness tampering in 2005.

And for good measure and quite hilariously Trump is reported as regretting signing the act, uttering the comment 'No more of Jared's woke s**t!'.

And of course Trump ends up pardoning daddy Kushner for Christmas 2020

Swamp what swamp

The hundreds of thousands maybe even millions who will gain employment in renewables will thank him.

Climate denial is the agenda of the selfish, the agenda of people who don't want clean breathable air and a world free of pollution, it is backwards science denying self destructive idiocy, by people who are convinced that the only thing that matters is their opinion and that by simply having an opinion that somehow qualifies them, empowers them, to deny the work of people who spend their entire lives studying a field of science.

The idiocy is clear, in that clean air is obviously a desirable future irrespective of the 1 in several thousand chance that climate science is somehow wrong, an electric future powered by renewable energy sources is a good thing in its own right.

Or maybe they want to go back to steam trains powered by coal, lots of jobs then weren't there, horrible dangerous jobs that took the lives or working men early and left many with terrible respiratory illness (coal mining). Or cities like Metro Manila where the air quality is so bad because of vehicle usage it is killing its citizens.

What gets me, and what always got me is that anyone anywhere ever believed that Trump cared about anyone other than himself.

I removed a like not a dislike the other day, yes we have the power to edit them, have I ever done so, no all your dislike votes are intact as are everyone elses.

While not entirely disagreeing with Keith's one man campaign to remove the little ticks and smiles from one particular ex-member the other year, I locked the ability to do so, to stop him and others doing that.

Biden is only 78 but people have to cast aspersions on his health don't they, because what they really fear is another black president in the Whitehouse and, oh dear, even worse, the first woman president.

Or perhaps that particular 'if he lives' thought which is cropping up all over the far right in the US is a threat, after all the last catholic US president was assassinated.

The democrats got more votes in the last two elections.

Of the Voting Eligible Population (VEP) of 239,247,182 a total of 159,690,457 came out to vote a turnout of 66.7% the highest in history since that statistic has been recorded (starting 1980) next highest in the last 40 years was for Obama in 2008 at 61.6%.

Big numbers are not impressive in their own right, Trump's obsession with the number was hilarious, there are a lot more Americans today than there were even just 20 years ago so even if the turnout had not been as high there could still have been record numbers just because the population had grown.

And anyway 86 million voted for Biden 12 million more than Trump, if you applied the proportions of the vote to the VEP 128 million would have voted for Biden and 110 million for Trump, see that would be 18 million more for the democrats a much more biggly impressive number than the 12 million they actually got

People turned out on the democrat side because their lives and their basic status living in a democracy depended on it and they turned out in much larger proportion than republican voters.

They turned out because they could see a despicable dangerous monster threatening their future and their very lives in the middle of a pandemic.

And don't you think there is something wrong with a democracy where one side has to get 12 million more votes than the other side just to scrape a bare victory?

edit: I didn't read your link earlier, my numbers came from other sources but I should correct my numbers as it appears something close to 5 million voted for neither Biden or Trump so just 81 million voted for Biden first President in history to get more than 80 million votes.

Yes you are correct I removed a green tick, I don't really put much stock in these little graphics.

No he's only gone when he is convicted in his second impeachment trial and barred from ever holding public office again, that might still not happen, apart from that we can only hope that his debts and criminal conduct catch up with him.

Yeah clearly I cared enough that the guy had completely missed my point, called out for one instance of judgement in 8 years of being an admin

I care when reality is being warped by conspiracy theory.