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External backup drives

Discussion in 'Technology Advice' started by oss, Nov 11, 2015.

  1. Anon04576
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    Anon04576 Well-Known Member

    I transferred to O365 on Friday. The only pain in the bum was my exported rules needed to be remapped to the inbox subfolders. Took a while as i have the maximum amount of rules applied (not sure exactly how many but somewhere round 50, i must purge and concatenate were necessary). I'm deliberating whether to have my .pst files (2005-2015) cloud based or local, not sure yet. Now, thats my machine, just the rest of the factory to go :rolleyes: Oh and now have 2 domains, .co.uk and .com, using forwarding on the original .co.uk domain.
  2. MattWilkie
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    There is nothing of "value" to anyone else on it. E.g. all my work base stuff is stored elsewhere due to data protection relating to clients. But for photos and other bits and pieces its a good place as an emergency backup or for storing. I index my photos with Adobe Lightroom directly with the drive so my laptop doesn't become clogged with photos. Advantage of it being at "home" is I can work here with it and then retrieve photos as and when I am away. RAW files soon take up a hard drive.
  3. oss
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    Well 69 days later my 712 Gigabyte upload completed, to be precise at 8:55am today :D

    So I am now a happy man safe in the knowledge that my entire photographic history is secure in the cloud and on multiple local hard drives :)
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  4. Dave_E
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    Dave_E Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    If you edit one photo,
    will you have to start the 69 day upload of 712 Gigabytes again?
  5. oss
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    No :) the sync system is very effective it will version the previous copy and upload the changed version.

    However I use Adobe Lightroom which is a non destructive photo library manager and digital darkroom, when you edit images in Lightroom it records all the changes but the original RAW file never changes it simply applies the same changes next time you view it and when you export the jpeg version to disk, so all that gets synced are the database changes which are relatively tiny.

    What I need to remember is to clear the previews Lightroom generates as I don't want to be backing up the cache all the time which would be pointless.

    My worry was that although I had plenty of storage for Jpeg files on Flickr and so on, I had nothing but hard drives for the Canon CR2 files which are the original digital negatives so to speak, SpiderOak solves that for me :)

    Also the drive that got backed up is an external drive so there will be no automatic sync whenever I edit things as I will only switch on the sync client when I have finished making changes, future backups should be reasonably fast as they will be incrementally backing up new images.
  6. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    So after my laptop crashed in Oct I now have two second hand ex health service PC,s both on windows 7 pro an external hard drive , Spider Oak on both PC,s (I will eventually down load every thing to the second PC) so it should be impossible to loose anything ever again unless all machines die together and I forget the password to Spider Oak £5 a month for 30 Gb
  7. Dave_E
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    Getting slightly more serious than in my last post.

    With almost a Terrabyte of photos, and the associated lightroom catalogue synched to the cloud, whenever you perform an edit on just one photo, there is a massive .lrcat file which must be re-uploaded.
  8. oss
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    Five quid a month for only 30GB is quite expensive Keith?

    Your backup strategy should be based on what is important to you, the chances are that documents photos and videos will be your most important files, these are what you should be backing up.

    Don't try to back up the operating system using SpiderOak as it is not really designed for that, you are best to do a full PC backup every now and then and store that on a removable drive, you can always restore or reinstall Windows but the important stuff is your personal data and that is what you should back up.

    One thing to note, sync services should not normally be considered as a backup solution, they replicate your mistakes as well as genuine changes to files, only services that retain previous versions of your files are safe as a backup solution, SpiderOak does retain backups I believe.
  9. oss
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    Not for me I use multiple catalogs so they are individually smaller Lightroom is a dog when the catalogs get too large, the reason is that it uses SQLLite as the internal database, very nice little DB but does not scale that well for the likes of Lightroom :)
  10. oss
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    My largest .lrcat is 196MB which is about a 30 minute upload but I am not so worried about backing up the .lrcat files and may exclude them in future, local backups are good enough for those.
  11. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    Its there cheapest plan Oss I dont yet have any use for a Tb How I get it is that spider backs up all my photos and my docs including amendments
  12. oss
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    I suppose so the $12 version is the 1TB and you are on the $7 version, seems a huge jump for a small amount of money.

    It will back up all your photos and docs if you tell it where they are it does not search your PC and find these for you. You either drop the files into the SpiderOak Hive or you have to go through the programs user interface to specifically include the files you want.
  13. oss
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    If you have ticked any of the check boxes on the left as shown below then it is probably backing up the files it finds but you should make sure that you sue the scroll bar on the right to scroll down and be sure that things really are being backed up.

    upload_2016-1-20_15-23-37.png


    Also you should see some files in this bit, I don't have any as I am not backing up anything from this specific PC

    upload_2016-1-20_15-26-17.png
  14. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    yes ive ticked all the boxes its only 270Mb used the 2 GB would have done me but you only get 2 months free
  15. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    how do you screen shot it I can only screen shot from my brower windows?
  16. Anon04576
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    I have 2GB free and have been using it for around 8 years

    upload_2016-1-20_15-54-15.png

    I use Snipping Tool in Win 7
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  17. Anon04576
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    Ah yes, it seems to be trial as you say.

    upload_2016-1-20_15-56-47.png

    I guess I was the early-bird who caught the worm (which isn't usually the case, trust me).
  18. Anon04576
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    There seems to be another product called Tresorit which seems to be directly competing against SpiderOak of late.

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  19. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member


    Um snipping tool would be located........
  20. Anon04576
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    Start- Accessories - Snipping Tool

    upload_2016-1-20_17-9-30.png



    P.S. I didn't use snipping tool to capture this image :)
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